Fairshake, I apologize and stand corrected, I just ran across info that did say that Hy Hunter was the first importer, then Hawes. I must have seen left over Hy Hunters along side the Hawes. Thanks for the info. I've been trying now to find the web site where I got the date of manufacture of the .44, so I can date the .22, it is a much lower number. But I can't seem to find that site again! 44 Man