No Longer a Conspiracy__UN Bans Chemtrails...

[TM7]

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The Chemtrail controversy is no longer deemed as a “conspiracy theory” by the mainstream media news. The United Nations has called for the end of “Geo-engineering (Chemtrailing) due to fears of disrupting nature. In this video, I share the article covering this breaking news and a few videos exposing the obvious in your face truth about chemtrailing taking place in our society. This is a victory for the truth movement, but it doesn’t end just here. Every day is a battle and information is key. Enjoy…. BREAKING: UN Bans Chemtrails foodfreedom.wordpress.com UN urged to freeze climate geo-engineering projects www.newsdaily.com UN urged to freeze climate geo-engineering projects www.reuters.com House of Commons Science and Technology Committee The Regulation of Geoengineering: Fifth Report of Session 2009–10 www.publications.parliament.uk NASA’s On-Line Cloud Chart asd-www.larc.nasa.gov

http://www.mythclues.com/2011/05/10/united-nations-bans-chemtrails/


See video in Link above,  you decide.....fyi....TM7
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[Swampman]

We once had a lady that worked with us that was mentally ill.  She questioned me about this too.......

[Swampman]

They act like it.

[torpedoman]

 I know 2 aircraft mechanics one i will trust with my life. Both assure me that there are no spraybars on the airliners wings and no place for huge storage tanks to hold the spray. the con trails you see are a natural thing caused by the aircraft wing in certain conditions.

[Swampman]

I'm a jet engine mechanic and worked on them for many years.  You are correct.

[Buckskin]

That is too funny! Some old codger collecting dust off a pickup watching jet vapor.  Then the news gets involved and has the dust analyzed and misinterprets the analytical data as 6.8ppm barium when it's actually 0.068ppm or 68ppb (parts per billion)!  Not only that, but he mixed tap water with it and the EPA standard for barium in drinking water for children is 0.7mg/L or 0.7ppm or 70 ppb and it's 2mg/L for adults (2ppm/200ppb). That's 3 times what he had in his drinking water!

Now that's a perfect example of the tinhatters, let their imagination cause their mind to believe what they prefer!  I could also get into the fact that they analyzed as a liquid (soluble barium) and not breathing zone which would be measures as mg/m3.

[Buckskin]

That is too funny! Some old codger collecting dust off a pickup watching jet vapor.  Then the news gets involved and has the dust analyzed and misinterprets the analytical data as 6.8ppm barium when it's actually 0.068ppm or 68ppb (parts per billion)!  Not only that, but he mixed tap water with it and the EPA standard for barium in drinking water for children is 0.7mg/L or 0.7ppm or 70 ppb and it's 2mg/L for adults (2ppm/200ppb). That's 3 times what he had in his drinking water!

Now that's a perfect example of the tinhatters, let their imagination cause their mind to believe what they prefer!  I could also get into the fact that they analyzed as a liquid (soluble barium) and not breathing zone which would be measures as mg/m3.

Micrograms per liter is ppb. I didn't get where he cut his samples with tap water...didn't see that. Most tap water test nil for barium except around mining and discharge areas...where the EPA gives a 2ppm level as MCL.

I don't really care for this article/link except to mention the UN in some area has issued their restrictions on weather engineering.

When looking into this weather/haarp engineering stuff I much perfer this link giving alot of governmnet references on geo-engineering, or even the recent Discovery Channel piece documenting chemtrails.

fyi......     http://www.dutchsinse.com/blog/?p=660

...TM7
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Yes I know ug/L is ppb, where does that fit in??? The news said the levels were 1000x more that what the lab test showed!  This is the kind of news the tinhatters get there support from.  They here an story from some news agency or read something on the internet and think it's actually fact, when actually there is absolutely nothing to it.  Who ever put that little video clip together either didn't have a clue, or they were trying to pull something over and use scare tactics to gain support for their conspiracy.

And what water do you think he used if not tap? Puddle? Lake? Ocean? Rain?  he had a full quart jar filled with water and a little sediment on the bottom?

And just because the UN talks about it doesn't mean the US is dumping barium and aluminium on our heads.  Other governments might be and likely are doing it, sure but that guy news guy wasn't from North Korea...  Seeding has been talked about for decades and I believe Russia was trying to do it last year when they had that drought.  So what...  The Tinhatters claim that airliners are seeding, which is almost as ridiculous as the government being behind 9/11.

[Buckskin]

Yes I know ug/L is ppb, where does that fit in??? The news said the levels were 1000x more that what the lab test showed!  This is the kind of news the tinhatters get there support from.  They here an story from some news agency or read something on the internet and think it's actually fact, when actually there is absolutely nothing to it.  Who ever put that little video clip together either didn't have a clue, or they were trying to pull something over and use scare tactics to gain support for their conspiracy.

I believe the news org showed the actual  analysis results...68.8ug/L wasn't it........gov loyalists-hatters like to take stuff like this and run with it and claim things like the guy added tap water to his sample and then digress into EPA drinking water sampling criteria and claim there is a conspiracy by people just investigating things If we had a governmnet that wasn't obsessed with secrecy and as you say lies...than we wouldn't have much of the people's investigations and concerns, but we don't.  But like you, I don't really care for this link and report, except to say these kinds of geo-engineering things are going mainstream and it is another front against we-the-people.

I much prefer the research found in the link I cited...:::    http://www.dutchsinse.com/blog/?p=660

which indeed, follows alot of info on the subject from various countries....TM7
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Yes they showed the analytical report, but stated that the barium level was 1000 time what it actually was. And in the next breath stating that it was 3x the toxic level set by the EPA!  Not only were they completely wrong in there amount of barium they didn't even state what EPA standard (breathing zone, drinking water, MCL's?) they were refering. It was analyzed as a liquid, but they were presenting it as a respiratory issue.  They were either stating from ignorance or for scare effect.  Either way, they were wrong and the amount of barium in that sample was almost nil.  You go and scrape up a little soil from your garden and you will likely have 68ppb barium.

Again, where did he get the water from in his quart jar, yes he never said tap water.  But my guess is that he didn't have the wherewithall to use deionized water.....  Even if this genius was clever enough to use deionized water, that amount of barium is nothing what they reported it to be.  Although if he was that clever he would have use a breathing zone particulate test instead of liquid..


These types of reports are what feed the tinhatters, even though completely false with no factual science behind them the news runs with it.  Forgot to mention the fool at the front of the video who's only purpose was to gloat that the UN recognized Chemtrails,  whoopee!!!  Justification for the Hatters!!! And the flower child at the end pretending to be a meteorologist redefining clouds for NASA!  Wow what a convincing video!  TM, you don't care for the video??? YOU POSTED IT!!!

[Empty Quiver]

The atmosphere is a big place. I have an extremely hard time believing you can haul enough of anything alloft to affect it. I worked several years in the ag industry and sprayed more than my fair share >10,000 acres every spring. 

An 800' wide spray pattern would cover 96 acres every mile traveled (give or take). One hundred miles to spray what it took me the entire spring to cover. The volumes boggle the mind.

Who is hauling all this crap to the airport? What are they hauling it in? If this stuff is so super d duper bad or good for that matter, how is it placarded? You don't haul tanks without placards sorry it don't happen. There are no more gossipy human beings on the planet than truckdrivers, no more nosy people on the planet than scale masters. This would be impossible to keep secret.

Cloud seeding for rain, yes. Nefarious one world order global domination plots? I think not. This stuff simply does not pass the sniff test. UN passing a resolution outlawing something that ain't happening. So they are pretty good at passing useless reolutions.

 Of all people TM7 I'd think you would be the last one to tought anything the UN is doing as evidense of anything.

[Buckskin]

Buckskin....I think you're the guy who brought in the MCL for drinking water for barium....but didn't mention the MCL for airborne...Since this news clip was about barium levels in rainwater what is the corelation of barium ppm in rain to barium ppm as aerisols in air.?? perhaps you know.

In the interim...here are alot more analysis from around the country you might look at an interpret.


..TM7
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This clip was NOT about barium levels in rain water.  Just as he never mentioned tap water, he never mentioned rain water. He supposedly saw particles in the air and collected it in bowls in sitting on his dads pickup truck.  And then the news tested it and reported it as 1000 times the actual level.  Then went on a witch hunt with that misinformation.

Just think about the science for a minute here (I know it's hard for tinhatters, but try) and overlook the analytical error.  This guy see and takes pictures of these jet trails, and we see the pictures.  Looks like any jet trail I've seen, but aside from that.  He stated that the trails do not fade away like a normal con-trail, soon after he see's particles fall to the ground, then decides to collects debris in bowls.  Timeline is way off here, even if you could get enough jets in the air to drop enough material to cover the entire area with a layer of dust, the time that it would take for even the largest aerosol particle to drop to the ground would be about 1 foot per second.
Lets say the jets were flying at 20,000 feet, it would take about 5 1/2 hours for those largest particles to drop IF there wasn't any wind!  Now figure out how many pounds of debris in aerosol form it would take to cover the entire area to get enough to put in his bottle... Embarrassing that any news organization would give this guy the time of day..

[Buckskin]

As for relating aersol seeding in the atmosphere to hydraulic spraying on crops I can't say if it is comparable. I know aerial spraying of crops by Ag airplanes is often at 150x, sometimes with no H2O carrier just pure chemical. I think we are talking about aircraft capable of carrying many tons of nanograde materials and whatever carrier might be needed, if any at all.. Let's say 2lbs of nanograde Barium metals/Acre and plane carrys 30 tons of material...that's 30,000 acre payload or approx 50 square miles per load.!

..TM7
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Hold on here, were now talking about nano particles?  How did this guy see nano sized particles falling to the ground???

[Buckskin]

From the Dept of health & Human Services

Environmental Levels
Air
 The concentration of barium in ambient air is estimated to be <0.05 ug/m3 .
Sediment and Soil
 Barium is found in most soils at concentrations ranging from about 15 to 3,500 ppm and mean values ranging between 265 and 835 ppm, depending on soil type. (Wow! the mean level of barium for soils is 8x the exaggerated levels that the news reported!)
Water
 Barium concentrations in drinking water typically average 30 μg/L, but can average as high as 302 μg/L.

From whikipedia
Depending on atmospheric conditions, contrails may be visible for only a few seconds or minutes, or may persist for many hours which may affect climate.

[Empty Quiver]

50 sq. miles is honestly not that much, 1/3 of a township (12x12) miles if I'm remembering correctly. Put into perspective 1/2 mile a hundred miles long, twenty minutes of flying. These trails are stretching from horizon to horizon?

I just don't see this as being so widespread. Possibly some sort of think tank "what if " white paper or doctoral thesis. 30,000 lbs is just about 3/4 a semi load of product, and if contained in a pressure vessel it's close to an entire load. I'm not seeing semi's routinely unloading into passenger aircraft, and that is what is primarily flying all day.

The fact that no one trusts what is being told to them by the powers that be just exacebates this. It's come to the little boy crying no wolf and everyone is coming running with guns. It's getting harder and harder to seperate the crazy from the bizarre.

I give you plenty of grief TM7. I hope you take it well, as I mean you no disrespect. We have differing opinions at times but I am forced to think about my opinions and where they are rooted.

[Empty Quiver]

Incidently, EQ...I don't know where you live, but if you come to the NE, or NW, or parts of California,,,you will quickly realize why people are increasing concerned with what is going with their skys.

..TM7
[/quote]From Mn. and travel much of the northern plains. Greater population density on the coasts and many more flights. Maybe they are changing weather. But seeing as how difficult it is to predict weather it would be hard to change it and know if you truely were responsable.

Lots of folks asking questions, where smoke is there fire? Could be the fact is I've never seen a "chem trail" only honest con trails.

[Lost Farmboy]

I know 2 aircraft mechanics one i will trust with my life. Both assure me that there are no spraybars on the airliners wings and no place for huge storage tanks to hold the spray. the con trails you see are a natural thing caused by the aircraft wing in certain conditions.

I didn't see anywhere in the video where it said the chemtrails were caused by commercial airlines.

[Buckskin]

Well no kidding terrorists or unfriendly nations would do it, but it's not likely they will listen to the UN...  the whole news article TM posted was essentially accusing the US of doing it t the public.  And yes, wiki said jet trails effect weather, as you know wikapedia is tun by libtards who buy that global warming junk...

[BAGTIC]

Ironically many of the people using the UN to support their position in this case are the same people who would in ordinary circumstances be attacking the UN as part of a global one world conspiracy. How do they decide when the UN is a reliable source to be trusted and when it is unreliable and not to be trusted?

[Empty Quiver]

Well since they outlawed this spraying it must be over right? Nothing to see here move along . I can't  (strong word but it is what comes to mind) be convinced we are under regular bombbardment of chemicals by some overlord mastermind. But if true it is now over so sleep well.