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45-70 Fun!!
« on: September 03, 2011, 01:06:31 PM »
  I had the opportunity to go to a local range today with a few Handis. I took my 30-30, 45LC and 45-70. As you may recall, the 45-70 and 30-30 are a matched set to one dedicated receiver. They both shot exceptionally well today.


  The 30-30 was sighted with the 160gr Hornady LE ammo. I found it's velocity to be very consistent with the factory ratings of 2400fps. It shot in the 2386fps range with a low spread. I have it sighted at 1.25" high at 100yds and that should do well for whatever I ask of it. The cast bullet loads I shot were clocked at 913fps. They were fun, but not as much as the 45-70 cast loads. ;)


  Speaking of 45-70 finally, it shot the 325gr Hornady LEs all over the place. Since I only had 6 shells left, I didn't set-up the chronograph for them. My preferred plinking load of 11gr TB powder under a 330gr Lyman cast HP shot very well at 1025fps. It shot 1" at 50yds and 1.5" at 100yds. I have a Bushnell Trophy scope with the ranging reticle for holdover. THE MOST FUN OF THE DAY came when I sighted down on the 200yd gong. My holdover was nearly 7 feet and it would reply with a resounding ping when struck. Although it took me 15rds to adjust the Kentucky Windage, I learned something about the momentum of those large bullets. Every miss displayed a earth moving spectacle. Dirt and grass would fly for several feet in every direction when I would miss the gong and strike the berm.


Next range day I plan to dial the 45-70 in a little closer as far as the scope goes. My 100yd hold was the very bottom dot of four in my reticle. Also, I plan to switch over to 405gr cast LFN bullets for better performance on game. I would like to test it's penetration on a few hogs this year in SW Oklahoma.


Many thanks to Pete and the other devout 45-70 Handi fans for recommending this to me by their exciting posts. ;)


No mention of how the .45LC shot is due to it's boring consistent accuracy. It always shoots good now that I found what it likes. ;)


Thanks, Dinny
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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 01:23:02 PM »
Dinny,
 
7 feet of holdover?!?!  You are lucky the bullet didn't burn up on reentry to the atmosphere. ::)   If you could find the ballastic tables the Germans used for their "Paris Gun" in WWI you would probably be all set with your TB load. ;D   Glad you had a good range day and I heard the weather in your part of the country is gettin' a little better.
 
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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2011, 01:38:27 PM »
Dinny,
7 feet of holdover?!?!  You are lucky the bullet didn't burn up on reentry to the atmosphere. ::)   If you could find the ballastic tables the Germans used for their "Paris Gun" in WWI you would probably be all set with your TB load. ;D   Glad you had a good range day and I heard the weather in your part of the country is gettin' a little better.
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BB,
  And that was at 200yds. The range has a 300yd berm, but I saved that for next time. The "Paris Gun" tables will come in handy then... ;D ;D


Thanks, Dinny



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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2011, 05:02:24 PM »
Dinny what are you shooting in your 45 colt

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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2011, 05:22:44 PM »
Welcome to the sport of Bullet Lobing :)

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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 05:35:14 PM »
Dinny what are you shooting in your 45 colt


It's a 335gr CP WFN in front of 16.5gr of 2400. I haven't had a chance to load anything here yet, so I'm just shooting up ammo that was loaded earlier this year before I moved. You can bet your bullets will be loaded next. ;)


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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2011, 05:57:06 PM »
my 45 likes the 300 grain bullet on top of 21 grains of 110/296. o buy the way Dinny don't for get we have the ability to make more ;)

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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2011, 06:00:49 PM »
my 45 likes the 300 grain bullet on top of 21 grains of 110/296. o buy the way Dinny dint for get we have the ability to make more ;)


Thanks!  I look forward to loading some more up. From what I saw of the initial ones, they will perform nicely in both the accuracy and hunting departments.  :)


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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2011, 12:29:19 AM »
Ya know Dinny, if ya keep talking like that, you're going to make me drag out the .45-70 for deer again this year.  It's not fair, she got the last one and just has to stay home and pout.  The .38-55 is going to be first out this year and I need to get working with her to finalize the load I'll use and learn it's trajectory.  Too many Handis, not enough time.  I don't know where I ever found time when I was working.

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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2011, 12:40:48 AM »
i really like 22'' barrel with a scope it just balances good but i like the bc to both shoot about the same at 100 yards same bullet and mild trail boss load. clad you had a great day at the range.

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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2011, 04:56:01 AM »
Didnt the old song go," well Ive never been to heaven, but Ive been to Oklahoma"........?
Sounds like youve found your corner of it  ;D .
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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2011, 06:44:49 AM »
Didnt the old song go," well Ive never been to heaven, but Ive been to Oklahoma"........?
Sounds like youve found your corner of it  ;D .
Stay  8) , my friend.


So far, I wouldn't say I have found my corner of it. I hope the cooler weather of winter and the vast hunting opportunities change my mind though. ;)


Thanks, Dinny
Handi Family: 357 Max, 45 LC, 45-70, 300 BLK, 50 cal Huntsman, and 348 Win.

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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2011, 02:16:18 PM »
Didnt the old song go," well Ive never been to heaven, but Ive been to Oklahoma"........?
Sounds like youve found your corner of it  ;D .
Stay  8) , my friend.


So far, I wouldn't say I have found my corner of it. I hope the cooler weather of winter and the vast hunting opportunities change my mind though. ;)


Thanks, Dinny
if your at fort sill just wait till the wind starts blowing all 4 directions at once

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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2011, 03:29:07 PM »
Dinny, I am considering either a 7mm-08 or 30-30 barrel (factory fitted) to add to my stainless  45-70 for deer hunting.  Ant advice between the two?

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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 06:15:21 PM »
Dinny, I am considering either a 7mm-08 or 30-30 barrel (factory fitted) to add to my stainless  45-70 for deer hunting.  Ant advice between the two?

Robert


Robert,
  I can't say anything bad about the 7mm-08. I can say that the 30-30 is awesome in the Handi rifle!  ;)


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Re: 45-70 Fun!!
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2011, 05:32:08 AM »
Dog, I like the 6.5 and 7mm's, and the 30-30 too.
You will get more in potential with the 7, but no rim. That probably wont be an issue, but.......has been for some. If I didnt have either, and had the choice, this would really attract me.
The 30-30, with the rim, if it has the range that you can work within, will be a fine cartridge. If you wanted to 'improve it' someday it would be ready, and you could even make it a 30-40Krag.
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