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Offline 1jonmon

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Sighting in an encore pistol
« on: August 26, 2011, 03:50:32 PM »
How do you guys sight your pistol in?  I'm working with a 7mm-08 with a Nikon encore scope with bdc reticle.  I can't decide if I should sight in a 50 yards or 100

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2011, 04:56:54 PM »
If you can see good enough I would sight in at 100 then see where it hits at 50. Or you could sight in at 75.

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 06:41:59 PM »
i start at 50 yards then go to 100 yards with my 308 win
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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2011, 07:46:04 PM »
Are you talking about how to sight in or where it will be zeroed when you're done.

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2011, 01:06:02 AM »
For a scoped 7mm/08 Encore handgun, I would sight in at 100 yards.

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2011, 02:23:42 AM »
I would bore sight it at 25 yds., then shoot a couple shots to be sure I'm on paper, and perhaps an inch or so low. Then, I'd shoot it at 100 yds, and zero it to be about 1 1/2" high at that distance. This should give you a good useable zero out to about 220 yds. or so, depending upon your load, and be about 2" low at that furthest distance.
Then practice shooting it a lot at 100 yds., as well as 150 and 200 yds.
Sighting in to be dead on at 50 or 100 yds. sharply limits the versatility of the 7mm-08, a fine cartridge.

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 03:23:14 AM »
Well, I have the bdc reticle so hold over isn't much of an issue.  I guess the best reason for being high at 100 yards would be that max pbr would limit ranging errors.  In other words I wouldn't have to guess precisely what my range is.  The problem is holding steady enough at 100 yards to get a good group.  I sighted in at 50 for a 100 yard zero.  Now I need to adjust so that I'm about 1.5 high at 100.  I used nikon's spot on to get the right numbers.  IDK how accurate the software is...

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 03:58:41 AM »
If you are shooting off a bench with a good front rest and sandbag for the butt you should not have any problem holding steady other wise you are just spitting into the wind. You really need to know what max distance you will be most likely shooting to and take into account what game you will be shooting at. You then need to know the velocity you are getting out of your load and know the ballistics of the bullet at that velocity to get where you need to zero. With straight cross hairs in a scope, for instance, take my 14" Contender 30-30AI. I am shooting the 125 Nosler BT at 2670 fps. With a zero at 100 yards 2 inches high I am dead on at 200 yards and 4 inches low at 250 yards. I can hold in the center of a deers front shoulder, which is what I use this rig for, out to 250 yards and not worry about shooting over or under the deer and make a killing shot. With your ballistic cross hairs I would sight in dead on at 100 yards and then shoot at longer distances to to verify where your ballistic marks put you then RIGHT IT DOWN and laminate a card and attach it to the pistol somewhere for reference.

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 06:48:06 AM »
I'd run the load through a ballistics program to know what range to sight in at for the PBR I want.   With that info if shot off a bench it shouldn't take more than 3-4 shots to be dead on at the range that will give you the PBR chosen.
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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 06:36:06 AM »
I'm using Nikon's spot on software, but I don't think it considers the 15" barrel.  It tells me the range for each circle and will adjust for dirrent zero and magnification.  It's nice, now I just need a good rest and more bullets to check it's accuracy.

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 02:25:04 AM »
     If you get it all figured out(software, hardware, computers, calculators or whatever) before you even shoot it you're gonna miss all the fun.  I know.... ammo is expensive and there's nothing wrong with having a good starting point, but IMHO there's no better way to know your gun and ammo than to shoot....shoot some more....then go out and really shoot it some more!!!  If you're new to handgunnin' and especially so with Encores/Contenders....and pistol scopes ::)  the more shootin'...the better.  OK, I'll get my ol' fashioned butt down off this stump ??? .....think I'll just go out today and shoot a little myself...I'll just force myself ;) .  Good luck w/ it!
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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2011, 03:38:51 PM »
Haha, true.  You forgot to add to that  time.  As much as I want to shoot I have to find time.  That can be very difficult when you consider the fact that there is fishing to be done, peewee football is starting up, bow season is right around the corner.  Oh and dove season opens this weekend....Gosh I need to get my scatter gun out, ttyl...

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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2011, 12:13:39 PM »
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If you get it all figured out(software, hardware, computers, calculators or whatever) before you even shoot it you're gonna miss all the fun.

 
Walt  ;D
 
Well this old butt likes to get a firearm "on line" without piddling anymore than absolutely needed to find a good load so the real fun can begin "to know your gun and ammo" by shooting it accurately, and then "....shoot some more....then go out and really shoot it some more!!!"  ;) 
 
Call it too many decades of reloading and wildcatting, but precision shooting and hunting is a lot more fun to me than excess load development.    As a serious P&V hunter I couldn't get out of all the endless brass forming and reloading to shoot so much every year, but at least I didn't waste it on excess load development.
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Re: Sighting in an encore pistol
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2011, 05:08:41 AM »
     Larry,  I hear what you're saying brother....but I guess I just see and hear too many people use a bore sighter, copy some computer load and then pronounce that "the're ready to hunt" ??? .
Walt