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I was wondering does anybody have one of these?
seems they were issued.
 
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/fr/self-loading-rifle-meunier-a6-m1916-e.html

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Re: Anybody seen this old french gun?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 11:52:23 AM »
Rare animal in this country in that shape. The French were way ahead of the world in SA firearms development. Read "Proud Promise" They never got enough credit for smokeless powder or semi auto inventions...Nice piece..I would buy it ...JMHO
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Re: Anybody seen this old french gun?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 01:29:55 PM »
Nice looking furniture too.
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Italian select fire 7mm Mauser for Costa Rica
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 02:30:25 PM »
This one was a eye strecher, in the 1930's the Italians 'contract' produced a 20 round mag fed, select fire 7mm mauser rifle for the CostaRican Army, this had a 4 shot burst function.
 
 
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/it/rifle-breda-m1935-pg-e.html

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Pederson rifles
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 02:40:48 PM »
USA, UK, Japan 
 the endevor for a semi auto rifle
 
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/usa/self-loading-rifle-pedersen-e.html
 
Japanese rifle and carbine prototypes are last 2.

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1920's era Czech Republic
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 02:51:56 PM »
CZ contracted arms globally, allot of them went to hot beds of conflict mostly china.
 
Its semiauto/select fire rifle was spread round the globe in several calibers, one just may be at your next yard sale you go to?
 
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/chex/zh-29-e.html
 
 

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Mexican Type 38 Arisaka
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 04:29:13 PM »
 
Japan fill'd a contract of 7mm Mauser TYPE-38 Arisaka's for Mexico. 
here's a 1913 dated one going for $2495
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=25049

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Re: Anybody seen this old french gun?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 03:32:58 PM »
The very first semi-auto rifle was manufactured by the swiss for the mexicans i think it was called a monidragon or something like that it was in 7mm mauser.  It was the very first one used in war too.  SS told us about it maybe he'll chime in he knows about all this old neat stuff.   CZY

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Chinese Liu semi auto rifle.........one them what if guns that never made it
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2011, 01:03:44 PM »
Interesting rifle from 1914
This chinese general saw the need for a semi auto during early WWI and had Springfield Armory work on perfecting the prototyp's
 
http://youtu.be/mWEa6_aJI9M
 
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=182579
 
http://www.nramuseum.com/the-museum/the-galleries/freedom's-doorway/case-82-right-display/rare-chinese-liu-semi-automatic-military-rifle.aspx

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Todays what if guns
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 01:04:47 PM »
http://youtu.be/dgORPbFTuQc
 
http://youtu.be/jWc3GAe0XQc  top 10 best modern assult rifles


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Madsen 1888 rifle Predateing the Mendoza 1908
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 01:57:37 PM »
 
The Danes beat the Mexicans to the design boards by 10 years.
These Madsen – Rasmussen (Bjarnov) M1896 semi-automatic rifles bear the distinction of being the first practical semi-automatic rifle ever to be adopted by any military service worldwide.
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/dk/self-loading-rifle-madsen-rasmussen-m196-e.html
 
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/mex/mondragon-e.html

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Farquhar-Hill rifle in August 1918 was “Rifle. .303 inch, Pattern 1918”.
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 07:50:44 AM »
Too Late to be fielded
 
 This rifle was initially chambered for the new “.303 rimless” round, designed by necking up the 7,65x53mm Belgian Mauser case and loading it with British-issue Mk.VII bullet of .303 caliber.   (Strange I thought the 7,65 was a .311?)

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Japanese Type 5 self loading rifle............ aka The Japanese Garand
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 08:12:58 AM »
 
http://www.armoryblog.com/firearms/rifles/japanese-garand-semiauto-rifle/
 
 
 
Below is the Pederson rifles that predated the garand but wernt accepted.
However by 1931 the Garand rifle was ahead in the race in US trials, and by 1932 the Pedersen rifle completely fell out of favor of testing board, which clearly preferred the gas operated Garand design. In mid-1930s Pedersen rifles of domestic manufacture were tested in Japan. Chambered for Japanese standard 6.5x50SR ammunition, these weapons were made in very limited numbers and in two distinctive versions – a rifle with one piece wooden stock and rotary-type magazine with 10-round capacity, and a carbine with two-piece wooden stock and detachable box magazine with 5-round capacity. After some testing these rifles were rejected by Japanese army.........."So they say"  the bottom picture is a Pederson captured in the Philippines with no makers markings just a Jap Kanji for safe next to safety lever, A MASH Doc pick'd this one out a pile of surrenderd arms and guess what he picked?? a 6.5mm Jap Pederson!!
 
 I was'nt able to find any info on at all on the Type 4, any refrence says its the Type 5 Garand Copy, still this obscure photo bucket shows the Type 4- 20round mag fed?
 
I wonder if you collect Pederson Rifles..............Does that make you a Pederphile?