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Schmidt Rubin 96/11 straight pull in 308
« on: October 02, 2011, 05:21:59 PM »
I have been offered a Schimdt Rubin 96/11 straight pull converted to 308.  Will take a look at it next week, about an hour and a half south of here.  Looks well kept and clean in picture with a stock cut down and mayby a shortened barrel. any advice appreciated.  Oh yeah, I am going to shoot it first and asking price $250, no scope.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin 96/11 straight pull in 308
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 05:49:48 PM »
I don't think I would push one of these old critters to .308 level loads.  The Schmidt-Rubin action is very complex and fairly weak in the 1911 versions, which I have too.  I actually don't go as high as some of the factory loads do, but the 308 is a 60k cartridge and the 7.5x55 Swiss is a 48K maximum cartridge.  Some have pushed to about 52k in the later K-31 variations of the swiss rifles, but the action simply isn't set up for 308 pressures.  The cartridges are nearly identical in size, but there are some differences.  I just developed a good deer load for mine for field shooting in another thread.
 
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Re: Schmidt Rubin 96/11 straight pull in 308
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 12:50:45 PM »
I would buy but only shoot reduced loads and I would not pay 250 for a non original.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin 96/11 straight pull in 308
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 04:16:48 PM »
Did not like the man face to face, decided I could not trust the deal
 
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Re: Schmidt Rubin 96/11 straight pull in 308
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 03:13:35 AM »
I love my Model 1911. It is still all original. i haven't tried anything very hot in it, but love the accuracy. I just have to remind myself that the iron sights in the bottom position are high at 100 yds so they come out right at around 300. $250 seems a bit high whether modified or not. But then I paid waaaaay less for mine about 40 years ago.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin 96/11 straight pull in 308
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 02:02:47 PM »
Yep, mine is vintage 1916 and I am not pushing it too hard either.  I just want to make it last.  ;)   One must remember that these were designed for trench warfare and that was the reason for the 300 yard deal, as I understand the original reasoning.  They do make a new front sight that can be re-staked on that corrects the height.  ;)  That's nice, but you have to remember to reduce all the other distances by 200 when calculating lift.  lol   If you can get her out to a 500 yard silhouette range, do it.  Super fun to hit that ram at 500 with irons.  8)
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Re: Schmidt Rubin 96/11 straight pull in 308
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 09:33:31 AM »
I'd trust the rifle more than the conversion. The original Swiss cartridge has a larger base diameter. A correct conversion would require setting the barrel back to eliminate the oversize portion before rechambering. Forty years ago those .308 conversions were sold pretty cheap and I suspect they just ran a reamer into the original chamber without setting the barrel back which is a considerably more expensive job.
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