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9/11 questions
« on: October 11, 2011, 03:49:05 AM »
Just some photos I found that I thought were revealing.
 
1) The first phot of the fires burning in the tower prior to collapse. It seems neither "random", "light" or cool to me.
 
2) Not sure where the term "symetrical collapse" came from but that does not appear to be it.
 
3) The photo of building six after does not seem to promote the symetrical collapse theory
 
4) If you look at building #6 location in relation to #7 it is not hard for me to figure out where the damage to building #7 came from.
 
If I am misreading the info these photos seem to contain I am sure someone will correct me.
 
 
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 04:48:49 AM »
It's pretty plain to me.
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 07:02:19 AM »
1) The first phot of the fires burning in the tower prior to collapse. It seems neither "random", "light" or cool to me.
 Looks random to me and contained on a floor or two..South tower fire went out and most fuel burned off outside yet freefell first in 50 minutes. You need to count again. There are no less than eight floors burning.
2) Not sure where the term "symetrical collapse" came from but that does not appear to be it.
 Pancake and/or freefall total collapse in peel down fashion must have been symetrical. looks symetrical and would require simultaneous and sequenced failure of fittings, attachments and members. Actually, The buildings weren't so much collapsed as they were blown up top to bottom...opposite of #7 All evidence to the contrary it would appear. Pretty simple just imagine dominoes yet stacked vertically.
3) The photo of building six after does not seem to promote the symetrical collapse theory
 Somewhere on the net there is a short video of #6 being blown between the 2 tower hits. Your #6 picture looks like a blown up building, completely hollowed from the inside. Have you seen the heatgram pictures of #6...? The picture I posted looks like a huge building fell on top of it.
4) If you look at building #6 location in relation to #7 it is not hard for me to figure out where the damage to building #7 came from.
 #6 was between the Towers and #7...broken/cut multi-ton beams and debris flying approx 200 meters to damage #7 is simply not explained by compressed air ejection. You need to look at more photos. You are the only one who seems to be using the term "compressed air injection" where did that come from? In any official, published or recognized documents just out of curiosity or more he said she said with out the backup?
If I am misreading the info these photos seem to contain I am sure someone will correct me.
Yes, of course. Knew I could count on you.
 
Not sure if the picture below represents "pancake" or not but it sure looks layered to me.

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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 07:08:46 AM »
Kinslayer, I think he got that compressed air thing from me when I disputed his claim about a lack of smoke and debris. I explained how the falling floors would compress the air in a floor below and blow out windows and walls.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 07:10:37 AM »
Never in my wildest dreams did I think that person would show up. ::)
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 09:10:21 AM »
How soon after the event was this shot taken. What is the source and some credentials for it would be nice.
 
Say that seems to be a pretty big debree field for a symetrical pancake collapse.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 01:28:05 PM »
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 That photo was from: http://killtown.911review.org/wtc6.html and originally from september11news.com and I believe they got the photo from Kurt Sonnegut who photographed the ground zero for 29 days straight from day 1 .I believe the photo was taken on Oct 3 or earlier.. Kurt now lives in exile in Brazil for documenting things not suppose to be documented..  More IR photos from NOAA can be found on the killtown.911review.org/wtc6.html as well   An interview of a named Emergency worker is also found there, who wittnessed bomb(s) going off in #6 and cars blowing up...a car door blown off hit her.   ..TM7 .
TM - It would be nice if you could provide the Emergency workers name, and agency.  I don't ever recall any official reports regarding: a person or persons "who wittnessed bomb(s) going off in #6 and cars blowing up...a car door blown off hit her." Maybe someone can verify if she was actually there at the time she claims.  I would also have to believe that her (your emergency worker) being hit by a car door that was "blown off" by a bomb, was more a figment of her over active imagination, than reality.

BTW your "URL" information regarding your "source" for the photo is invalid.  [/font][/font] 
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 01:30:57 PM »
Sorry about the large font and bold type regarding the URL, it wasn't typed like that.
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 02:52:02 PM »
I'll try and find it later, but, that doesn't look real to me. computer generated.

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 06:37:11 PM »
TM - Is the name of the photographer spelled correctly?  "Kurt Sonnegut" is that correct?  And he is currently "conveniently" in exile in the wilds of Brazil?  Who exiled him?
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 06:50:22 PM »
Infrared photo of #6, red circled, and WTC debris field
 

 
Looks like an empty crater....where are the stacked 101 floors from the towers around the inner core columns ....? In fact, where did the towers go..?
 
..TM7

TM - Why don't you look at this photo from your NOAA source.  The towers went all over lower Manhattan, in the form of a huge dust cloud.  The steel beams from the towers are clearly visible.

for a enlarged view go to: http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/wtc/
click on 2nd photo.
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 05:48:58 AM »
 
 
I read the entire "interview" and was tempted to "cut and paste" and then respond to each individual inacccuracy and assumption of facts not in evidence but it would have just taken too much time and not really been worth the effort. I am going to use one of the truthers tactics. The truthers always use the term "junk science" well that was a "junk interview" plain and simple. The person conductinng the interview wasn't just asking questions he was leading her right where he wanted her to go. Can you really be surprised that her testimony wasn't used in the 9/11 commision. I don't think she even realized that planes had hit the towers untill after the collapse so most of her assumptions would have been based upon faulty information.
 
I did enjoy the part about the light fixtures exploding in #6. Once I heard that and the part about the guys with the "smokey bear hats" I knew it had to be a controlled demolition. They just wanted to stay in the building untill the explosives started going off before they vacated the building. Seems kind of odd to put explosives in light fixtures. Wouldn't they be better used on structural columns and such?
 
 
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 06:10:19 AM »
not pancaking ?  maybe eye witnesses can be confused at times, but all the video cameras were completely objective.  they pancaked.
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 07:14:42 AM »
not pancaking ?  maybe eye witnesses can be confused at times, but all the video cameras were completely objective.  they pancaked.

errr..Pancaked...?  look at he photos of the debris field which kinslayer will post...
 
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I'm refering to all the videos as they pancaked.  you seem afraid of the term.
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Re: 9/11 questions
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 08:09:45 AM »
1,500,000 tons.  or 750,000 tons in each tower.  that much weight grinding things down is not gonna leave much recognizable debris.
btw, I was looking at stuff (aka nonsense) put out at this forum and did you know there's a video from an alien spacecraft of the towers going down ?
I can't help but snicker at some people.
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2011, 09:29:02 AM »
nope, it was one of those conspiracy sites.  bunch of wackos.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2011, 11:35:13 AM »

btw, I was looking at stuff (aka nonsense) put out at this forum and did you know there's a video from an alien spacecraft of the towers going down ?
I can't help but snicker at some people.
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No I don't know anything about aliens anything... ;) Maybe a OCTheory believer posted it... ???
 
What grinding...the whole towers were gone or down in less then 10 seconds.?  #7 collapsed and pancaked in 7secs...leaving a stack of floors... steel is not compressable...there should be a stack of 101 floors around a central core tube for the Towers if you buy the OCTheory ...where did the towers go? what about the volutized steel, upwards of 20% gone to vapor some researchers claim...No stack of floors=no pancake...energy was applied to these towers.  I believe it was the North tower that had the top slide off before collapsing...maybe 30 floors or so...watch your videos...what happen to that top 30 floors or so..?
 
..TM7
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BUGEYE - I saw the video shot by the aliens, I think it was in "Mars Attacks"  ;D

TM - I believe the video that was shot by aliens show that it was taken to Mars.  ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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