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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #90 on: October 12, 2011, 04:40:20 AM »
We are in a war guys, a war against islam. It's not just us, it is worldwide, this cancer has infected every nation on earth. It is a G lobal  W ar  O n  I slam, aka GWOI. Elwacky stated he was proud of being a traitor to America, he himself put a bullseye on his head. The only scary thing is that obummer is president, he is trying to credit himself with something he likely didn't even know about til it was over. Al waky was sacrificed to gain support and get votes, why else would he brag about it?? He's trying to show how AMERICAN he is, hiding his true motives. I'd imagine that everybody who posts on a gun board is on a list of one kind or another. Al wacky was like a cancerous tumor that pops up all over the world, he was one tumor that has been removed. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2011, 04:51:40 AM »
We are in a war guys, a war against islam. It's not just us, it is worldwide, this cancer has infected every nation on earth. It is a G lobal  W ar  O n  I slam, aka GWOI. Elwacky stated he was proud of being a traitor to America, he himself put a bullseye on his head. The only scary thing is that obummer is president, he is trying to credit himself with something he likely didn't even know about til it was over. Al waky was sacrificed to gain support and get votes, why else would he brag about it?? He's trying to show how AMERICAN he is, hiding his true motives. I'd imagine that everybody who posts on a gun board is on a list of one kind or another. Al wacky was like a cancerous tumor that pops up all over the world, he was one tumor that has been removed. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

That list might be long
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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #92 on: October 13, 2011, 11:48:56 AM »
What were the charges against Anwar al-Alwaki anyway...??  What was the government's case against him..?
 
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I believe this answers your question.

Undie bomber stuns court with confession By ED WHITE
AP
 Last Updated: 9:09 AM, October 13, 2011
 Posted: 12:58 AM, October 13, 2011
             More Print   A Nigerian man pleaded guilty yesterday to attempting to bring down a Christmas Day flight over Detroit with a bomb in his underwear, telling a surprised courtroom that the failed attack was retaliation for the killing of Muslims worldwide.
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab has never denied the eight charges against him, including conspiracy to commit terrorism and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction.
Still, he caught observers off guard yesterday when he told the Detroit court that the underwear bomb was a “blessed weapon to save the lives of innocent Muslims.”
   ABDULMUTALLAB  - Suddenly pleads guilty. height=300  ABDULMUTALLAB
Suddenly pleads guilty.      see more videos        He continued his rant, saying, “The United States should be warned that if they continue to persist and promote the blasphemy of Mohammed and the prophets . . . the United States should await a great calamity that will befall them through the hands of the mujahedeen soon.”
Abdulmutallab faces a mandatory sentence of life in prison.
“If you laugh with us now we will laugh with you later on the day of judgment,” he said.
Outside court, defense attorney Anthony Chambers said Abdulmutallab, who had chosen to represent himself and was being assisted by Chambers, pleaded guilty against the lawyer’s wishes.
“We wanted to continue the trial but we respect his decision,” Chambers said.
Abdulmutallab, 25, said he carried a bomb in his underwear onto Northwest Airlines Flight 253 on Christmas Day 2009 with the intention of killing everyone on board.
 The bomb didn’t work, and passengers jumped on Abdulmutallab when they saw smoke and fire.
The evidence was stacked high.
Abdulmutallab was badly burned on a plane full of witnesses. The government said he told FBI agents he was working for al Qaeda and directed by Anwar al-Awlaki, the radical, US-born cleric recently killed by the United States in Yemen. There were also photos of his scorched shorts, and video of Abdulmutallab explaining his suicide mission.
“Contrary to what some have claimed, today’s plea removes any doubt that our courts are one of the most effective tools we have to fight terrorism and keep the American people safe,” Attorney General Eric Holder said yesterday in a statement.
“We will continue to be aggressive in our fight against terrorism and those who target us, and we will let results, not rhetoric, guide our actions.”
Passenger Lori Haskell, 34, of Newport, Mich., watched Abdulmutallab’s plea by video in an overflow room. She called his statement “chilling” but not surprising.
“I’m just really relieved that it’s done with,” Haskell said.
Abdulmutallab had written a few court filings in his own hand, including a request to be judged by Islamic law.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/undie_bomber_stuns_court_with_confession_Kr7cF33HcuebaE6MrAZcZO#ixzz1ahFppR7I
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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #93 on: October 13, 2011, 01:33:47 PM »
We are in a war guys, a war against islam. It's not just us, it is worldwide, this cancer has infected every nation on earth. It is a G lobal  W ar  O n  I slam, aka GWOI. Elwacky stated he was proud of being a traitor to America, he himself put a bullseye on his head. The only scary thing is that obummer is president, he is trying to credit himself with something he likely didn't even know about til it was over. Al waky was sacrificed to gain support and get votes, why else would he brag about it?? He's trying to show how AMERICAN he is, hiding his true motives. I'd imagine that everybody who posts on a gun board is on a list of one kind or another. Al wacky was like a cancerous tumor that pops up all over the world, he was one tumor that has been removed. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

That list might be long

Shootall:  what we see immediately above is the ravings of a religious terrorst,,,nothing more or less....the war he goes on and on about exist in his and others minds....The USA has not declared war on a religion, nor could if it wanted to....
 
Let's listen to a little Texas Straight talk as an antidote to this lunacy......from Ron Paul who explains:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiKmFr0LzGk&feature=player_embedded
 
 
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Ron Paul is a pacifist who is blind to the threat of islam.
I've read some of their surahs.
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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #94 on: October 13, 2011, 01:40:21 PM »
OSR. Good post Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #95 on: October 13, 2011, 03:45:50 PM »
Still waiting to hear those clicking sounds!
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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #96 on: October 13, 2011, 04:44:17 PM »
Still waiting to hear those clicking sounds!

  Don't worry about that sound.  It's in my head.

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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #97 on: October 14, 2011, 03:40:24 AM »
In post 103, by osr, Achmed the terrorist, wrote that he wanted to be judged by islamic law. That told me right there, that he should be tried as a war criminal, and not a US citizen. Death by firing squad would be appropiate. gypsyman
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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #98 on: October 14, 2011, 04:43:34 AM »
TM, I don't believe I said anything about being an expert. YOU seem to be the self-styled expert on all things political and religious.
I don't pick 1 verse of a surah, I read the entire surah for context.
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Re: American citizens can be placed on a kill list and Obummer knows........
« Reply #99 on: October 14, 2011, 05:12:43 AM »
In post 103, by osr, Achmed the terrorist, wrote that he wanted to be judged by islamic law. That told me right there, that he should be tried as a war criminal, and not a US citizen. Death by firing squad would be appropiate. gypsyman

Gypsyman is correct.  Achmed the soon-to-be-Dead Terrorist should be tried via military tribunal for multiple counts of conspiracy to commit murder and conspiracy to commit an act of international  terrorism , killed and buried in a sack made of used pork sausage casings.   

TM7, you can say Islam is a religion of peace, and proclaim it from the highest mountaintop.  Alas, there are too many here that see it for its true nature.   Many Muslims do not practice every single teaching, true, but the fact that that Islam condones and endorses lying to non-Muslims (a sin!), commands the execution of non-believers (a sin!) if they do not forcibly convert to Islam (a sin! -- false gods).   

The one point on which we do agree is the very dangerous legal precedent of this action.  Awlaki received no due process rights guaranteed to US citizens under the US Constitution.    Your re-introduction of "death panels" was actually a very good choice of words -- you have further uncovered BHO's agenda to move the US closer to a nanny and police state.

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« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2011, 06:45:55 AM »
OSR....
 
re: post #193
 
You're turning into a BHO supporter I see.. ;D   
 
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TM - Post 193? ??? Nope, don't think so, we're not there yet.

A BHO supporter? Never in your lifetime.

I posted the article because you said:

What were the charges against Anwar al-Alwaki anyway...??  What was the government's case against him..?
 
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 "The government said he told FBI agents he was working for al Qaeda and directed by Anwar al-Awlaki, the radical, US-born cleric recently killed by the United States in Yemen."



I believe this answers your question.
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« Reply #101 on: October 14, 2011, 08:24:33 AM »
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"The government said he told FBI agents he was working for al Qaeda and directed by Anwar al-Awlaki, the radical, US-born cleric recently killed by the United States in Yemen."



I believe this answers your question.

 
OSR...not actually.  This is not a charge...its hearsay. If he was a spiritual advisor to malcontents that is not a charge either.  If people think this hearsay has a basis in reality then I should think they would have abducted him and sent him to the GITMO GAOL for 'enhanced' info extraction.  Any American that believes in American morality, or our charter documnets, would or should have a problem with assassinations of Americans.
 
Now the TPTB thinks they can use same drone assassinations in Iran, and more in Pakistan....there is now doubt Iran will consider this and act of war.
 
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TM - Note the italics and underlined part.  I believe it says "he (Abdulmutallab) told FBI agents", not someone heard him (Abdulmutallab) say it. So your completely wrong on your assumption about "hearsay".
Merriam- Webster definition: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay or if you want you can look up the legal definition, which will verify without a doubt your wrong.

Seems to me that Iran has already committed an act of war against us already, so anything that "the powers that be" do will not exacerbate a situation already past the point of Iran considering this an act of war.
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« Reply #102 on: October 14, 2011, 09:23:43 AM »
America is a State . Islam is a religion. In America Govt. rules the people thru. laws. The govt. is made up of elected officials in most cases. In the Muslim world the govt. is run/control ed by the religious leaders.
 When the Christians were expanding and still today we send out missionary's to convert people to christian ways of life. The Muslims are doing the same thing , expanding and sending out missionary's or mercenaries to convert Christians or kill them. They have done this before in history . For them any war is a religious war.
We need to understand they do not wish to be like westerners , Americans in particular. They live a very religious lifestyle. They can  resist excess . They see our waste , porn, failure to meet fire with fire and failure to stick out a long term fight and win as weakness . Until that is realized by all we will never win.
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« Reply #103 on: October 14, 2011, 09:35:24 AM »
I'm still happy he is dead.

And still no clicking sound.
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« Reply #104 on: October 14, 2011, 09:38:49 AM »
The most impressive aspect is all America knows . We are free to know. No cover up. Like I say lets hear their line of thinking and how they justified it before going off half cocked .
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« Reply #105 on: October 14, 2011, 11:53:28 AM »

Still in the realm of hearsay...'directed' doesn't mean much of anything. Guilty guys say all kinds of stuff. In any case may not be have any charges attributable at all to al-Walki, and if he is big al CIAduh honcho better of in the GITMO Gaol. However killing US citizens is a crime on account of hearsay, paranoia,  or because you don't like them or what they say or believe...  to do so is the frantic and bizarre actions of a governmnet gone fascist.
 
I'm not aware of any crimes, charges, or acts of of war by Iran against the USA........like us selling Iran weapons is their perogative,,,like us they don't know who gets the weapons in the end,,,unlike us I don't know of Iran selling/giving weapons to drug czars in Mexico.
 
 
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"Still in the realm of hearsay"  ;D ;D ;D ;D - Yeah, I can just see your "law degree" from the University of Imakesuplaws hanging on your wall. ::) ;D

"I'm not aware of any crimes, charges, or acts of of war by Iran against the USA" - Apparently you don't keep up with the real news of what's going on in the world.  Your living with your head in the sand, doesn't help, either.  ::)
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My quandary, I personally, don't think I have enough Handi's but, I know I have more Handi's than I really need or should have.