About ten years ago I got Gangreen (I don't how to spell it), in my right leg. I lost forty percent of muscle and fifteen percent of the nerves in the calf portion, I can walk but I limp. Since then I have used blinds and latter stands, but the only areas availible that I can hunt are scrub which anyone knows that have hunted these areas are as thick as a solid wall at times with few open areas. My son has been uses a climber and has great results. In the scrub you have to follow dim trails until there is finally an opening that you can get at least a 25 to 50 yard shot. Well today I found one of my son's climbers, a $ 200.00 Real Tree that you sit on and then pull up the bottom portion. I tried it and could not power up the lower part. The worst part was trying to get on the lower part, but I finally did it. Got up about 5 feet and just as I was sittin down the lower section let go but it was tied to the seat, and I had on a harness. I attempted this 3 more time and just gave up. I love hunting inclimber stands and my question is are there any climbers availible that are somewhat easier to use? I don't care about the cost and I only want to go 15 to 20 feet up. The trees I use are either palm or pine trees. THANKS Hawkenman