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9/11 Victims
« on: October 27, 2011, 11:56:05 AM »
You can google these names and find obits and info from literally thousands of different newspapers around the country. I guess they are all in on it as well.
 
 
 
         Flight 93 Flight 11 Flight 175 Flight 77  Christian Adams Anna Allison Alona Abraham Paul W. Ambrose  Lorraine G. Bay David Lawrence Angell Garnet Edward Bailey Yeneneh Betru  Todd Beamer Lynn Edwards Angell Mark Lawrence Bavis Mary Jane Booth  Alan Beaven Seima Aoyama Graham Andrew Berkeley Bernard C. Brown, II  Mark K. Bingham Barbara Jean Arestegui Touri Bolourchi CAPT Charles F. Burlingame III, USNR, Retired  Deora Frances Bodley Myra Joy Aronson Klaus Bothe Suzanne M. Calley  Sandra W. Bradshaw Christine Barbuto Daniel Raymond Brandhorst William E. Caswell  Marion Britton Carolyn Beug David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst David M. Charlebois  Thomas E. Burnett Jr. Kelly Ann Booms John Brett Cahill Sarah M. Clark  William Cashman Carol Marie Bouchard Christoffer Mikael Carstanjen Asia S. Cottom  Georgine Rose Corrigan Robin Lynne Kaplan John J. Corcoran III James D. Debeuneure  Patricia Cushing Neilie Anne Heffernan Casey Dorothy Alma de Araujo Rodney Dickens  Jason Dahl Jeffrey Dwayne Collman Ana Gloria Pocasangre Debarrera Eddie A. Dillard  Joseph Deluca Jeffrey W. Coombs Robert John Fangman LCDR Charles A. Droz III, USN, Retired  Patrick Driscoll Tara Kathleen Creamer Lisa Anne Frost Barbara G. Edwards  Edward Porter Felt Thelma Cuccinello Ronald Gamboa Charles S. Falkenberg  Jane C. Folger Patrick Currivan Lynn Catherine Goodchild Dana Falkenberg  Colleen Fraser Brian Paul Dale Peter M. Goodrich Zoe Falkenberg  Andrew Garcia David Dimeglio Douglas Alan Gowell J. Joseph Ferguson  Jeremy Glick Donald Americo Ditullio Francis Edward Grogan Darlene E. Flagg  Lauren Grandcolas Alberto Dominguez Carl Max Hammond, Jr. RADM Wilson F. Flagg, USNR, Retired  Wanda A. Green Paige Marie Farley-Hackel Christine Lee Hanson 1stLt Richard P. Gabriel, USMC, Retired  Donald F. Greene Alexander Milan Filipov Peter Burton Hanson Ian J. Gray  Linda Gronlund Carol Ann Flyzik Susan Kim Hanson Stanley R. Hall  Richard Guadagno Paul J. Friedman Gerald Francis Hardacre Michele M. Heidenberger  Leroy Homer, Jr. Karleton D.B. Fyfe Eric Hartono Bryan C. Jack  Toshiya Kuge Peter Alan Gay James Edward Hayden Steven D. Jacoby  CeeCee Lyles Linda M. George Herbert Wilson Homer Ann C. Judge  Hilda Marcin Edmund Glazer Michael Robert Horrocks Chandler R. Keller  Waleska Martinez Lisa Reinhart Gordenstein Robert Adrien Jalbert Yvonne E. Kennedy  Nicole Miller Andrew Peter Charles Curry Green Amy N. Jarret Norma Cruz Khan  Louis J. Nacke, II Peter Paul Hashem Ralph Kershaw Karen Ann Kincaid  Donald Arthur Peterson Robert Jay Hayes Heinrich Kimmig Dong Chul Lee  Jean Hoadley Peterson Edward R. Hennessy, Jr. Amy R. King Jennifer Lewis  Mark Rothenberg John A. Hofer Brian Kinney Kenneth E. Lewis  Christine Snyder Cora Hidalgo Holland Kathryn L. LaBorie Renee A. May  John Talignani John Nicholas Humber, Jr. Robert G. Leblanc Dora Marie Menchaca  Honor Elizabeth Wainio Waleed Joseph Iskandar Maclovio Lopez, Jr. Christopher C. Newton  Deborah Ann Jacobs Welsh John Charles Jenkins Marianne Macfarlane Barbara K. Olson  Kristin Gould White Charles Edward Jones Alfred Gilles Marchand Ruben S. Ornedo   Barbara A. Keating Louis Mariani Robert Penninger   David P. Kovalcin Juliana McCourt Robert R. Ploger III   Judith Camilla Larocque Ruth Magdaline McCourt Zandra F. Ploger   Natalie Janis Lasden Wolfgang Peter Menzel Lisa J. Raines   Daniel John Lee Shawn M. Nassaney Todd H. Reuben   Daniel M. Lewin Marie Pappalardo John P. Sammartino   Sara Elizabeth Low Patrick J. Quigley IV George W. Simmons   Susan A. Mackay Frederick Charles Rimmele III Donald D. Simmons   Karen Ann Martin James Roux Mari-Rae Sopper   Thomas F. McGuinness, Jr. Jesus Sanchez Robert Speisman   Christopher D. Mello Victor J. Saracini Norma Lang Steuerle   Jeffrey Peter Mladenik Mary Kathleen Shearer Hilda E. Taylor   Carlos Alberto Montoya Robert M. Shearer Leonard E. Taylor   Antonio Jesus Montoya Valdes Jane Louise Simpkin Sandra D. Teague   Laura Lee Morabito Brian David Sweeney Leslie A. Whittington   Mildred Naiman Michael C. Tarrou CAPT John D. Yamnicky, Sr., USN, Retired   Laurie Ann Neira Alicia N. Titus Vicki Yancey   Renee Lucille Newell Timothy Ray Ward Shuyin Yang   Kathleen Ann Nicosia William Michael Weems Yuguag Zheng   Jacqueline June Norton     Robert Grant Norton     John Ogonowski     Betty Ann Ong     Jane M. Orth     Thomas Nicholas Pecorelli     Berinthia B. Perkins     Sonia M. Puopolo     David E. Retik     Jean Destrehan Roger     Philip Martin Rosenzweig     Richard Barry Ross     Jessica Leigh Sachs     Rahma Salie     Heather Lee Smith     Dianne Bullis Snyder     Douglas Joel Stone     Xavier Suarez     Madeline Amy Sweeney     Michael Theodoridis     James Anthony Trentini     Mary Barbara Trentini     Pendyala Vamsikrishna     Mary Alice Wahlstrom     Kenneth Waldie     John Joseph Wenckus     Candace Lee Williams     Christopher Rudolph Zarba, Jr. 
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Re: 9/11 Victims
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 12:30:18 PM »
But, Kinslayer1965, don't you know that no airlines went down on 9-11?  There were no passengers.  The WTC buildings and the Pentagon were taken out by missiles.  I know.  I saw those videos too.  But they were faked.  It's impossible for an airplane to fly like that.  There were never any bodies found.  There was never any wreckage found.  Hope that helps.  Oh, btw, we never landed a man on the moon either.  Sorry.  But, I thought you had to know.
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Re: 9/11 Victims
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 03:32:38 AM »
I can assure you, I personally knew two of the victims.  One was a fellow LEO, and the other was the brother of a close friend.  They went to work, and never came back, to their loving families.  To make it worse, there was no real closure.
 
To those that feel it was "faked" I ask you to honestly search your hearts and ask yourself, do you really believe that trash, or are you just using that as a cover for your real agenda.

And to those of you who do have "that" agenda, let me say emphatically in advance: NO, "the Jews did not do it".

Muslims did.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 03:47:43 AM »
Great post OSR!
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 08:50:47 AM »
  Kinslayer, I hope somebody gets you a box of commas for Christmas. A list of names should be separated by commas. OSR my agenda is the truth.


Every name I googled was a victim from one of the flights in the 911 attacks. The list proves nothing to me because I always believed there were real airline flights, with real airplanes, full of real people that were killed. How and when they were killed is still a mystery to me.


There are a number of replacement theories where the airline flights were replaced with drones that were crashed into the buildings. I find all these theories inconclusive so I won't bother writing about them.


Some say flight 93 was shot down. I find these theories to be inconclusive. I have no reason to not believe the Scott Beamer story. I believe Scott and the rest of the passengers that fought back were real American heroes. They saved lives and gave us truth seekers clues to follow. If they had not stopped the attack in Pennsylvania, the plane would have hit WTC building 7 and I would still be deceived by the real terrorist in the government.


Flight 77 is the big mystery. The pictures taken before the front collapsed prove there was no way a 757 went through that wall. When and how they were killed I do not know. The plane would have to be destroyed and passengers killed to complete the allusion.


Once again a list of dead passengers proves nothing to me.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 09:19:50 AM »
we all saw the hole in the pentagon. did you expect the hole to be 124ft wide ?
when it hit the wall the wings folded up like a pair of scissors.  those walls aren't like in your house or even in the towers.  they are 24in thick reinforced concrete.  so give it up.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 11:51:21 AM »
hahahahahahahahahahahaha snickersnickersnickersnicker groangroangroan snortsnortsnort gasp.
not answering any particular post, I bumped my funny bone.
 ;D ;D ;D :o :o
I think I'll go up in the attic and dig out some of the fairy tale books that my daughter gave up at age three.
I don't know why I have the urge to read them.  maybe they're more believable than other things ?
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Re: 9/11 Victims
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 05:45:53 AM »
LFB,
I had the names entered into an excel spreadsheet in four columns and when i tried to cut and paste into my post it came out as you see it. Surprisingly you are (not surprisingly actually) the only person to complain. It turned out to be more dificult than attaching a link to a bogus video. I will relay your request to all my friends who understood the intent of my post and with any luck I will have plenty of commas to make you happy in the future.
TM7,
Just out of curiosity do you have any proof of your claim that both buildings were condemned or is this just one of those things that get repeated until even the absurd gain credibility? Any credible proof of the existence of "project vigilence" just out of curiosity?
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 05:56:34 AM »
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Just out of curiosity do you have any proof of your claim that both buildings were condemned or is this just one of those things that get repeated until even the absurd gain credibility?

 
 
Yeah, I was wondering about that myself.  Funny how the NYC authorities would let 3000 people work in a condemned building.   ::)
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 08:31:12 AM »

Just out of curiosity do you have any proof of your claim that both buildings were condemned or is this just one of those things that get repeated until even the absurd gain credibility? Any credible proof of the existence of "project vigilence" just out of curiosity?

kinslayer1965 - Maybe this will help.  Does this quote ring a bell?

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principal is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeats them over and over."


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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 10:29:06 AM »
we all saw the hole in the pentagon. did you expect the hole to be 124ft wide ?
when it hit the wall the wings folded up like a pair of scissors.  those walls aren't like in your house or even in the towers.  they are 24in thick reinforced concrete.  so give it up.

 
I expected it to be bigger than 12 feet wide. Really it is so small it can be hard to find.


OK, here it is. Fold up your 757 any way you like and send it through the hole.





 
Give it up? I will never give up searching for the truth!
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 11:13:31 AM »

TM7,
Just out of curiosity do you have any proof of your claim that both buildings were condemned or is this just one of those things that get repeated until even the absurd gain credibility? Any credible proof of the existence of "project vigilence" just out of curiosity?

Aside from the facts that it was a pretty well know fact around NYC that the WTC was a money loser, needed updating, and had a asbestos abatement problem...yes, I do, and the buildings were essentially condemned, even though your 911myths site claims they were money makers.  By NY building codes before the buildings could be updated asbestos has to be cleaned up and out...demoliton of the buildings could have gone as high as $15 billion...
 
here's some info....
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Contrary to your assertion the WTC was not losing money.  Info from the NYTimes, which as you know, is widely known to be a liberal newspaper had this to say:

The New York Times did not think he (Larry Silverstein) had many problems in early 1998 when they published an article titled "Commercial Property/Downtown; At the World Trade center, Things Are Looking Up"[3]:
As the market for office space in midtown has tightened and rental rates increased, tenants have been looking to downtown as a cheaper alternative. Over the last year, those seeking large blocks of space have been finding them at the trade center, which had many vacancies as a result of the 1993 terrorist bombing and the shrinkage of the financial industry in the early part of the decade.
"In January 1997 we had about an 80 percent occupancy rate," said Cherrie Nanninga, director of real estate for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the complex. Twenty percent of 10.5 million square feet of space is 2.1 million, which would be a substantial building by itself.
But as a result of the last year's work, Ms. Nanninga, said the complex is over 90 percent occupied and expects to it reach the 95 percent mark by the end of the year. That, she said, would be about as full as the center is likely to get, since there is almost always someone moving in or out. "Ninety-seven percent occupancy would be full," said Ms. Nanninga...
 
Naturally after the 1993 bombing some tenants were lost, however by 1998 the fear had dissipated and they were experiencing an increase in occupancy, so much so that they were approaching the maximum. Over the next few years they got even better; to the point where the Port Authority issued a press release stating "only 250,000 of the 10.4 million square feet of office space in the trade center remains vacant. And the legal center has an occupancy rate of over 99 percent."[4]. I can hardly see how money was being lost at this time, and the price tag for removing the asbestos was $200 million, not much compared to the $3 billion price tag for the lease[5].
There is no evidence that the WTC was losing money or was some kind of disaster, and clearly they had no problem with getting tenants, especially towards 2001."


Your statement: "the buildings were essentially condemned" is not the same as saying the building was condemned.  The first is an opinion, the second is a governmental fact based upon an order issued by the NYC Dept of Buildings. 
Regarding your claim about the building codes, and the asbestos cleanup costs.  I would love to see the section covering your claim, and what you estimate the clean up costs to be.


 
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 11:41:37 AM »
Hell, look at the bandwidth that tm just used to try to make a false statement look like a true one.  I'm flabbergasted.
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 12:45:37 PM »
we all saw the hole in the pentagon. did you expect the hole to be 124ft wide ?
when it hit the wall the wings folded up like a pair of scissors.  those walls aren't like in your house or even in the towers.  they are 24in thick reinforced concrete.  so give it up.

 
I expected it to be bigger than 12 feet wide. Really it is so small it can be hard to find.


OK, here it is. Fold up your 757 any way you like and send it through the hole.





 
Give it up? I will never give up searching for the truth!
when a 12ft wide airplane hits a wall made of 24in thick reinforced concrete, what do you think should happen ? think for a second.  if the airplane had wings and tail tough enough to tear out any more of that concrete, it would be too heavy to fly.  anything else is just a fairy tale.
believe me, I have read some of the dis-info sites on the web and those site authors are the most simple minded people on the internet.  they blame Bush, the Jews, the CIA, the Russians and Bigfoot.  they blame everyone but the real perps.
you say you'll keep searching until you the truth.  I told you the truth.
remember, The Jews are still looking for their Messiah. are they wrong, or you ?
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