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growing tobacco
« on: December 28, 2011, 10:15:41 AM »
anyone know the legalities associated with this? also, do dried leaves fall under the category of tobacco products? and can they be sold without taxes, or bartered?

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Re: growing tobacco
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 11:56:56 AM »
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Re: growing tobacco
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 11:58:57 AM »
I understand that, but it is legal for a person to grow tobacco. where it gets hazy are the finer details like selling.

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Re: growing tobacco
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 01:54:05 AM »
Alot of people in my area roll their own cigarettes, which means they buy tobacco in 1 pound bulk bags. 
 
Those bags are not taxed the same as regular cigarettes are and those people can roll a carton for the price of the tobacco and the paper tubes.  The taxes on those bags get the regular state sales percentage tax treatment that almost everything else gets with the feds not getting involved at all, to my knowledge.
 
My State does however reguire a tobacco sales license in order to sell tobacco.  I believe my state would rigorously enforce the need for a license for tobacco sales.
 
You should probably check with your state law as it applies to tobacco sales, as state law could differ on the subject.
 
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Re: growing tobacco
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 02:11:23 AM »
When you grow tobacco you get an alotment. That allowes you to grow tobacco. The govt. will come and count plants . Each acre is allowed a certian number of plants. You can sell or rent your un used alotment to other farmers. The tobacco has to be taken to a bonded tobacco warehouse and sold to lic. buyers. The farmers save their own seed or get it from other growers most of the time. My family grew it for years and I have watched as the govt. man would cut plants that were over the allowed number. Some make twist to chew and some keep some for smoking but it is illegal to sell it or give whole leaves away is what the farmers tell me now. Leaves are good in dog beds as it keeps them insect free and the gum rubs on the dog and helps his coat. But we stoped using it so the farmers won't get in trouble .
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Re: growing tobacco
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 05:15:44 AM »
I remember my great-grandparents farm in the early sixties. In the shed he had huge tobacco leaves hanging on the wall drying. Either he grew them or bought them somewhere locally. This was in SW Missouri.  He also had an old plug press where they mixed molasses and other stuff with the tobacco to make their own plugs. He and 2 great uncles chewed the tobacco. I suppose laws have changed a lot since then....
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Re: growing tobacco
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2011, 05:24:01 PM »
Ok here is how it is in Ky, and it seems to be somewhat different in each state.


1) The tobacco base (your allotment) no longer exists, these went away when the government subsidies were removed from the farm bill budgets back in the early 90's


2) you can in fact grow your own for your own use


3) if you try to sell any of this home grown tobacco anywhere other than an auction house for tobacco and other farm products you will be treated like a drug dealer and face similar penalties
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Re: growing tobacco
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2011, 07:48:14 PM »
I had an uncle back east in Southern Indiana about 1949. He was growing tobacco in a corn field to hid it from the Feds. They caught him, it cost him everything to stay out of prison. He moved to California and never tried that again. ???