a couple of years ago i bought some sabots from J&D components out of utah. And to tell you the truth i was impressed with them. accuarcy was as good as the 110gr V-maxs(1-1.5 MOA) i was using at the time, without the recoil. I was get about 3800 fps. the only problem was the poorer quality bullets I was using. The best group it managed was about 3 inches. once i changed to a higher quality(speer match, V-max or Calhoons ) the group size shrunk dramatically. I also found that the heavier bullets(55-60gr) grouped better. Now however i've got a dedicated varmint gun a remington 700 with the synthetic stock 24'' barrel in 22-250 and a 6-24x "tactical"scope and a Harris bipod . so my old winchester model 70 30-06 has been retired to the gun safe, for the time being. but i enjoyed using the sabots so well i plan to use them in my Norinco M-305(M14) 308win this winter for wolves, assuming that they're safe to use in semi-autos.