The Amish win a round.

[srussell]

0k we will use tape but not a small triangle sign. and yes i live around alot of Amish. if you don't think they are out at night drive around here on the weekend. now as long as they dint bothere me i dint care. but dint ask me to pay for anything if they get hit

[scootrd]

Anyone who would put the safety of family in harms way for stupidity sake is just wrong.
Not just their family but others who need to use public roads.

My Kubota is required by law to use a reflective triangle and it's bright orange. I cannot imagine coming across a Black buggy in the middle of the night on a winding rural road.

The Darwin Awards exist for a reason.
ie:  Recognition of those individuals who contribute to human evolution by self- selecting themselves out of the gene pool through putting themselves unnecessarily in life threatening situations.

So if the Amish consider the right to self -extract themselves out of the gene pool then yes I guess they can count it as a "win".

My only comment is Just don't put other peoples families at risk while you won the right to apply stupidity and self select you and yours out of the gene pool .

Famous last words  -  hey all watch this !!!!

[Lost Farmboy]

  The empire will strike back, it's still illegal to sell milk.

[ironglow]

I am fully in favor of the 1st article of the Bill of rights..  "nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof"..
  However, I believe this to be a case of "conflicting rights".  The old adage "you have a RIGHT to thrash your arms around all you want, but where they come in contct with my nose..that is where that RIGHT ends..
   Running around at night with matt black buggies, doing 8-10 mph at a good trot, is in itself flirting with disaster.  I guess they may have a RIGHT to endanger themselves,  but not so with endangering other people.
   The Amish around here are not having any dispute with SMV signs as far as I know..and with our hilly country the 12' flag wand would be a great idea.  Tape alone just won't get it..such tape is found on mailboxes, snow blades, water troughs and just about everything in between.  That familiar triangular sign means something..just like the red octagon of a stop sign or the v shaped yield sign.
   
   Frankly, I cannot feature any man being willing to endanger his family in such a way as to fight SMV signs.
 
 
  BTW:  Any of you guys who don't think Amish teenagers "kick up their heels"..haven't heard of "Rundspringen"....
 
  Recently, about 20 miles from my house, a young Amish man with his horse & buggy, gave a sheriff's patrol car a merry chase through a nearby village before being subdued..he was cited with a DWI.
   I don't suppose he made any "burnout" marks..but he may have left some "horse apples"..    

[SHOOTALL]

  The empire will strike back, it's still illegal to sell milk.

Back in WW2 my grandfather was in the lumber business. He needed a truck. A guy near him was selling one at a bid sale. The price of trucks like alot of things had a freeze on it with a limit on price. So the guy with truck got all interested together and said who ever wins the bid on this logging chain can have the truck at the fixed price also. My grandfather paid $800.00 dollars for the logging chain.
 
So just how much are you charging for a jug to carry the free MILK in ? 
 
We are American's we can find a way to beat anything !

[ironglow]

    Don't miss this Amish drag race..see at about the 1:50 point;
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lKlBPdgA_E

[powderman]

IG. Thanks for the link. Where they show the buggies side by side at night the reflective tape showed up before and clearer than the orange sign, at least to me. POWDERMAN. 

[SHOOTALL]

The tape is on trailors that can go the speed limit the three corner sign lets you know ITS SLOW .

[SHOOTALL]

Do we teach drivers ed saying the rules of the road apply to all but Amish ?

[powderman]

The tape is on trailors that can go the speed limit the three corner sign lets you know ITS SLOW .

 
SHOOTALL. Thanks, I knew that, just a senior moment I reckon, got a lot on my mind. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

Powderman;
  Yes. I think the tape was b righter also..but as shootall said..that tape could be on a concession trailer, log truck or on somethging being hauled on a flatbed..the triangle says "this is a SLOW vehicle"..
    It seems like the Amish in the video aren't bothered by the highway dept "decorations"..I give them credit for using both tape AND triangle..
  Must be some decision by the local Amish who are fighting the triangles.  They do have general Amish rules, then there are some added ones by each local community..