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Offline Doc Lisenby

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« on: February 01, 2004, 10:57:54 AM »
In the 8x57mm Turkish Mauser, were the bores .318 or .323 or were there some made with the smaller bore?  I heard the 8mmx57 bores were changed in 1905 to the larger bore but I don't know when the Turks were made.
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Re: Turkish Mausers
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2004, 01:45:12 PM »
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In the 8x57mm Turkish Mauser, were the bores .318 or .323 or were there some made with the smaller bore?  I heard the 8mmx57 bores were changed in 1905 to the larger bore but I don't know when the Turks were made.
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There were a number of Turkish Mauser models.....from lte 1800's to 1940's.

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2004, 02:54:07 PM »
I picked up a turkish  "1938"  model 98 8MM mauser for $39.95 a while back the only thing that is different is the small ring barrel.     BigBill

Go to: http://webs.lanset.com/backplan/guncab/turk.htm  and look at this one too;  http://turkmauser.com/turkmauser/models.htm

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2004, 06:19:57 PM »
All turkish Model 1893, 1903 and 1905 Mausers were originally built in 7.65x53.  The Turks received a bunch of Gew 98's from the Germans in WW I, and these were all either built as 7.92x57S, or the very early ones would have been converted to S bore by the Germans.  In the great Turk rebuild programs of the 1930's, the M1893's, 1903's, 1905's were converted to 7.92x57S, the J bore being LONG obsolete by that time.  The Gew's were altered to take the Turkish handguard by boring a rabbet in the front of the receiver and shortening the barrel tennon by two threads to match.  These are commonly referred to as "M1938", along with the converted M1903 and 1893 models.

The Turks also received a number of M1888 Commision rifles from the Germans.  Many of these were converted by the Germans to load with strippers instead of chargers, and to take the S bore cortridge; but not all were so-modified.  I have never owned or examined a Turked M1888, so I can't offer an experienced opinion as to whether the Turked ones were converted to S bore or not.  But you can be 99.9% certain that any 7.92 mm Turk Mauser with an 1893, 1903, 1905, or German 1898 action  is arranged to fire the S bore cartridge.

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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2004, 02:45:18 AM »
Thanks Jim, BigBill and Bob.  Your answers were very helpful.  They helped to relieve my worries.
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