OK Mr. Graybeard I followed your advice and went to one of your sponsors. SWFA. I bought the Z-Conquest 3-9X40. Their really not set up for walk in customers and are mostly mail order. They asked me for a tax number which I didn't have, however, since I'm a land owner I qualified as a farmer/rancher. I never got to talk to Jeff or anyone other than the receptionist. Oh well, I knew what I wanted so had no problem, but it would have been nice to compare the Zeiss to the B-4200. I think I'm going to really like this scope, the 1/4 clicks you can do with your fingers are worth a lot. To be truthful I don't think this scope will improve my type hunting over my tried and true Leupold's. The Zeiss is brighter by just a little bit. Time will tell ,but I'm not for sure that I can't pick up the sight picture quicker with the Leupold. Anyway, I now have "snob appeal."