Author Topic: Wood Stove?s  (Read 4805 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BIG Dog454

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 253
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2011, 09:16:48 AM »
here is a cost of different fuels for heat

http://fulton.osu.edu/topics/horticulture/home-lawn-garden-pdf-files/fuel-value-calculator-New.pdf

you can compare wood, gas, corn, etc.
BD

Offline bilmac

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (14)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3560
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2011, 06:18:22 PM »
If I'm reading it right the calculator shows wood pellets to be a pretty competative fuel. Mice thing about pellet stoves is ease of installation. Our insurance company never hasselad us about our pellet stove but I had to remove a wood stove in order to get insurance.

Offline Cornbelt

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 673
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2011, 12:45:54 AM »
  I recently got a flyer in the mail that listed a window mounted pellet stove. It looked like an interesting concept, and no more trouble to install than a window air conditioner. Be interesting to see if it catches on.

Offline hillbill

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3285
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2011, 01:20:39 PM »
ive looked into pellets stoves and they are a good deal for sure if you get the right one.and you buy your pellets when they are cheap and store them in a clean dry rat free place.my problem is ive never run across a pellet tree on all of the 600+ acres my extended family owns.now a buddy of mine did run a 5 gal bucket of acorns thru his and said they burned good.only prob was he couldnt get his wife to pik up enuf acorns to last the whole winter.ill stik with my wood furnace. i have enuf dead trees on 30 acres ive got to keep it goin  till kingdom come.if i wasnt able and a young 46 yrs old id certainly look at a pellet stove with corn capabilities.

Offline charles p

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2374
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2011, 02:50:46 PM »
When I sold homeowners insurance, the application asked if a woodstove was UL listed.  A homemade stove was unacceptable.
 
 

Offline bilmac

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (14)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3560
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2011, 11:54:23 AM »
Problem with burning coal is finding the stuff. I have a friend who still burns it, he and a friend go together and hire a semi to haul a load every year from the mine

I would hope that it is being revived, but if the tree huggers have their way we will never burn it again. I understand that there is a pellet type stove being made that burn coal that is ground into pea gravel size.

Offline hillbill

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3285
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2011, 01:36:10 PM »
i remember a buddy of mine that was raised somewhere in the dakotas telling me they used to gather coal from outcroppings on their farm and use it for fuel in the winter in addition to wood.that right there is a sweet deal. wonder if anyone still does this?

Offline bilmac

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (14)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3560
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2011, 01:43:45 PM »
There are some coal seams showing above ground in NW Wyo, some of them on gvt. ground, so theoretically you could go out and gather it. Practically it would probably cost more for the gas to get there than the coal was worth. Also the seams look like they tilt pretty sharply into the ground so it wouldn't be long before you were either digging a tunnel or moving gobs of overburden. And then it probably wouldn't be long before the BLM said you couldn't do that anymore.

Offline ihookem

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 763
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2011, 03:14:46 AM »
Just get a good free standing stove. Again, don't get a Chinese made one Canada or USA. I had a free standing for 15 years and heated my house very well, no electricity when power went out. When I built a new house I went with a Quadrafire 7100 fireplace insert. It was also not the stove the salesman said it was but it was good until the fans wore out, over heated the thin wires to the fan and burned half the house down. We rebuilt the house. This time an EKO 25 gassifier Wood boiler. It's outside though. The EKO was 9k and don't think I would do it again. Too much money for the little heat this house takes.  My insurance company was American Family. They do not charge me  extra for burning wood. It was not the wood burner , it was really an electrical fire. They didn't drop me but won't give me the 5% discount for 3 more years. ;D  Make sure it's installed right with good chimney. Before you put in a stove spend the money to insulate the attic, storm windows, seal the basement floor joist as much as you can afford the better. Then you will enjoy your stove even more.

Offline RemingtonMagnum

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 487
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2011, 08:29:01 AM »
Hi Friends
While searching I located a very nice Bug Out stove heater. If you want to check Colman supply and their Military M-1945 GI tent stove. It may use Coal, Wood, and with an adaptor use heating fuel. They are new also.
 
 
Don Jackson Remington Magnum/Ultramag
@
@

Offline Cornbelt

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 673
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2011, 04:04:42 PM »
What's in a wood pellet a mouse likes?  Do they have a glue that might be made from hooves?  Is the glue water-soluable?
 

Offline blind ear

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4156
  • Gender: Male
    • eddiegjr
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2011, 06:10:09 PM »
Some pressed logs are glued together with molases, may be the same with pelets. ear
Oath Keepers: start local
-
“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.” – Ron Paul, End the Fed
-
An economic crash like the one of the 1920s is the only thing that will get the US off of the road to Socialism that we are on and give our children a chance at a future with freedom and possibility of economic success.
-
everyone hears but very few see. (I can't see either, I'm not on the corporate board making rules that sound exactly the opposite of what they mean, plus loopholes) ear
"I have seen the enemy and I think it's us." POGO
St Judes Childrens Research Hospital

Offline SHOOTALL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23836
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2011, 03:34:07 AM »
Are you burning oil or gas?

 Wood and oil burning in the same chimney make a dangerous soot?

 We burnt all wood and dad had me on the roof cleaning the chimney every week.  I think you said closed off fire place, that would be a separate flue.

Do you have any proof of your statement about that 'dangerous' soot?  I never heard that before.

Thanks

soot from oil or wood is a problem if a gas appliance is added to the flue. Gas exhust will dry the soot from the others and cause it to fall off the walls of the flue and block it. In most cases to use a gas appliance after either wood or oil the flue must be lined . Here the three cannot be used on the same flue at the same time by code.
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

Offline Winter Hawk

  • Trade Count: (47)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1947
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2011, 04:42:05 PM »
If you want to check Colman supply and their Military M-1945 GI tent stove.

Don,

Couldn't find Colman Supply, I did find Coleman Supply.  I found a M-1941 GI tent stove there.  I actually saw one in use back in the mid '70s in a hunting camp.  The guy didn't have the bottom, but set the top section in a box of sand.  It worked pretty well, I imagine having the whole thing would work a lot better!

-WH-
"All you need for happiness is a good gun, a good horse and a good wife." - D. Boone

Offline bilmac

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (14)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3560
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2011, 10:18:24 AM »
I was in the Alaska Guard and we used a tent stove called a Yukon stove. It would burn wood, coal or oil with an adapter. We always used it with oil. I think we burned the same diesel that our trucks were using.

Offline Drilling Man

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2012, 02:37:59 PM »
check with your insurance company before you buy. Some wont insure homes with wood heat and others jack the rates way up to the point that it isnt worth it. Add the price of firewood in it and if you dont have access to land to cut your own or time to do it buying wood just isnt going to save you money.

  I heat with both wood and coal, my insurance went up $29.00 per year when i installed my stove.  I probably saved that back the first week i ran my stove!
 
  DM

Offline hillbill

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3285
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2012, 02:14:24 PM »
check with your insurance company before you buy. Some wont insure homes with wood heat and others jack the rates way up to the point that it isnt worth it. Add the price of firewood in it and if you dont have access to land to cut your own or time to do it buying wood just isnt going to save you money.

  I heat with both wood and coal, my insurance went up $29.00 per year when i installed my stove.  I probably saved that back the first week i ran my stove!
 
  DM
i would have to say that i would go without insurance before i would quit burning wood.i work outside all day and i want to come home to a warm house. and if this shack burnt down id just build another one just like it in a couple months out of pocket.

Offline charles p

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2374
  • Gender: Male
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2012, 02:19:05 PM »
Use hardwood only and age it a year.  Reduces your hazzard and gives good results.  Now is a perfect time to stack wood for next season.

Offline The Hermit

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 722
  • Gender: Male
  • Security is the ability to take care of yourself.
Re: Wood Stove?s
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2012, 05:10:28 PM »
+1 hillbill.
Insurance co dropped me about 10 years ago because I refused to quit burning wood.
At 76, I'm sticking with wood till the end. When ever there is an extended power outage, folks seem to head to my cabin.
Although I also have a modern kitchen, I still have a 1934 Kalamazoo wood cook stove with the warming oven on top. It's still in like new condition, good for another lifetime for some one else.
 
   The Hermit