I found the 870 youth stock in the Hogue overmold style. I am going to try the 870 in 12 ga because some quick measurements made it appear close enough. I can do some fitting or send it back and try a youth model for the 20 ga. I WON"T pay $100 or more unless I go to someone like boyd's and get one to my spec.s. Too many possibilities for $50 or under to pay a big bill. Any more ideas? I know someone out there has fought the short arm syndrome, or made one for the Lady of the House. Later Bandito ............................