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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2012, 10:16:43 AM »
On the surface it looks like the kid was unjustly killed.  let's find the guy that did it and prosecute him if he's guilty.
and let's go after the blacks who kill whites.
let's go after ALL murderers.
but if blacks want war, bring it on.
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 10:35:32 AM »
  Yes, justice should be forthcoming, but for someone like Calypso Louis to call for retaliatory violence is wrong.
 
  Since this Zimmerman fellow is or soon will be in jail, just whom does Farrakhan suggest his servants of Allah retaliate against ?
 
   Judging by his own statement,  "no fly" sounds like a prudent decision..
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2012, 12:54:03 PM »
On the surface it looks like the kid was unjustly killed.  let's find the guy that did it and prosecute him if he's guilty.
and let's go after the blacks who kill whites.
let's go after ALL murderers.
but if blacks want war, bring it on.
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 02:50:52 AM »
On the surface it looks like the kid was unjustly killed.  let's find the guy that did it and prosecute him if he's guilty.
and let's go after the blacks who kill whites.
let's go after ALL murderers.
but if blacks want war, bring it on.
::)
since you're rolling your eyes you must disagree with going after murderers.
or, you must like their continued threats of violence against whites because of ONE nutcase. ::)
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 03:59:18 AM »
Anytime a citizen is killed there should be an investigation. Accused  murderers should stand trial, regardless of skin color or religion. Those inciting riots should stand trial also. Rioting costs taxpayers millions of dollars.

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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 06:14:08 AM »
Should Farrakhan be on 'no fly' list? Of course not, no more than some white cracker who says 'bring it on!' to the idea of a race war. People pop off all the time.


About the shooting of this young kid: wrong, wrong, wrong. And it'll be used to challenge the idea of armed self-defense. Based on what I've read, this Zimmerman guy didn't 'defend' hisself; he sought out and forced a confrontation.


I imagine that there would be more uproar in certain quarters if he were black, and he killed w white teen with a soda & skittles, and then claimed 'self-defense', and the majority black PD let him slide...right?
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 06:21:27 AM »
  Should this Muslim be placed on a "no fly" list ?
 
        http://www.theblaze.com/stories/farrakhan-tweets-where-there-is-no-justice-there-will-be-no-peace-law-of-retaliation-may-be-applied/
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IG..if your teenage son was shot dead returning from the store with candy and the authorities did nothing--what would you do about it?  Most people would elicit support and guidance from their church or greater community. Where exactly is Zimmerman located at this time, and do we have anymore pictures of him?
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  Was that kid in Florida Farrakhan's son ? 
    So the local authorities were asleep at the switch; surely Florida's atty genl could handle it without Farrakhan's help..no need for Calypso Louis to butt in from Chicago !  It seems like there would be enough for him to do right there in Chicago...you know, something about "sweep your own doorstep first".
  In any case, does that give Louis permission to issue a threat or fatwah against...yeah, against whom ?
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2012, 06:38:59 AM »
Should Farrakhan be on 'no fly' list? Of course not, no more than some white cracker who says 'bring it on!' to the idea of a race war. People pop off all the time.


About the shooting of this young kid: wrong, wrong, wrong. And it'll be used to challenge the idea of armed self-defense. Based on what I've read, this Zimmerman guy didn't 'defend' hisself; he sought out and forced a confrontation.


I imagine that there would be more uproar in certain quarters if he were black, and he killed w white teen with a soda & skittles, and then claimed 'self-defense', and the majority black PD let him slide...right?
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     Farrakhan reached down to Florida to cause an uproar..along with the usual suspects..Jackson..Sharpton..etc .. the usual "poverty pimps"
  As far as uproar, don't be ridiculous ! 
    How often is some convenience store clerk gunned down by a crack addict..and how often are there nation-wide riots and screaming over each incident ?  Justice will be done, whether the poverty pimps show up or not..they will just make it more messy. 
    Have you forgotten the Twaana Brawley incident Sharpton was involved with ?  Remember he was proven to be a liar, taken in by a hoaxter !   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley_rape_allegations
 
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  Incidently; Who is the "white cracker" you referred to above ?
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2012, 08:38:28 AM »
On the surface it looks like the kid was unjustly killed.  let's find the guy that did it and prosecute him if he's guilty.
and let's go after the blacks who kill whites.
let's go after ALL murderers.
but if blacks want war, bring it on.
::)
since you're rolling your eyes you must disagree with going after murderers.
or, you must like their continued threats of violence against whites because of ONE nutcase. ::)
Yep, that's what it is. ::)
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2012, 09:01:20 AM »
IG, I'm the "white cracker" he's refering to.  one who is tired of threats.  either they should shut up or get it on.
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2012, 09:08:50 AM »
IG, I'm the "white cracker" he's refering to.  one who is tired of threats.  either they should shut up or get it on.

 
BUGEYE. Yep, cracker is a term the blacks use to describe us white folk. No shock there. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2012, 10:50:00 AM »
 An interesting video has recently come up...  Most of us, realizing we have little information to go on, have basically said..."let justice be done"..
  To go off half-cocked often makes one look a bit stupid in the end.. as with Jackson counselling Clinton on adultry.. ;D   or Sharpton ..immediately taking the lies of Tawana Brawley..and making them his own..  ;)   Then there's Farrakhan spoputing fairy tales about some kind of "mother ship" arriving from outer space.. :P
   Now, without any solid facts the gang of civil rights violators in Philly issue a "fatwah" on Zimmerman..
 
  Those who said "let justice be done" may well have been closer to the truth...could be Zimmerman's biggest mistake was to take his gun with him..and maybe not..   Let's wait until the Grand Jury or a jury of twelve speaks..   Now see this video:
      http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/24/Witness-Martin-attacked-Zimmerman
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2012, 10:52:16 AM »
Anytime a citizen is killed there should be an investigation. Accused  murderers should stand trial, regardless of skin color or religion. Those inciting riots should stand trial also. Rioting costs taxpayers millions of dollars.
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  This is an example of calm, sensible, reasoned statement...
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2012, 05:58:16 AM »
Personally, I think there is more to the story then what we are hearing. Everyone seems to be jumping on the bandwagon of their choosing then ranting and raving, when many here will complain that the media does the same thing.
From what I have heard about fl. law you can protect your self with a gun in a public place. This seems to be ignored in most of the arguements I have heard.
Guy was told not to pursue by dispatch. I dont know about fl but in wi unless it comes from a lawfully sworn in Officer its not a lawful order, only a recommendation (dispatchers are not sworn)
The guy was in the neighborhood watch program, he pursued to observe the guy and protect his neighborhood, THAT IS WHAT THEY DO!! I can only assume he did not know it would be confrontational, (hind sight is 20/20, but does not count)
The boy only had a BOTTLE of ice tea and skittles. I now of at least a couple people killed or seriously injured by bottle in my area, so to say he was unarmed is not entirly true, depends on the use of the bottle. Could be a weapon. Go after a police officer with a bottle and see if he uses deadly force to stop you, it would be a good indicator as to if a bottle could be a weapon. I already no the answer to this, so I wont try it.
I think it was a bad, confusing situation for both parties and a series of bad mistaken Identities by both parties. I think the kid jumped the other guy because he felt he needed to protect himself and was being pursued by a guy. Then a fight insued and the boy got shot by guy who felt like he was attacked by a thug and needed to defend himself.
Everyone wants to blame someone. But in this case I think both side should have equal blame.

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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2012, 06:11:47 AM »
Turk, I agree totally!  Too often we prejudge an event without knowledge of all of the facts.  This will just have to played out in the courts, sad but it doesn’t look like there can be a fair outcome with all the in-put from the black community.

It’s interesting to see the number of people demonstrating over the shooting, the black community did not respond at all when four hoodlums killed two college students in TN. a while back, matter of fact some pushed for an acquittal. It amazes me at how quick the killing of a black man can elevate to this level.  I’d bet if it had been a black shooting a white you would not have heard of it.

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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2012, 08:01:39 AM »
Something is missing, there is a reason the police did not arrest the guy on the spot.  We are not privy to all the facts, just the media hype.
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Re: Sounds like a threat of violence..
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2012, 08:44:40 AM »
It amazes me at how quick the killing of a black man can elevate to this level.  I’d bet if it had been a black shooting a white you would not have heard of it.

It ain't just the killing of a black man here; it's the disparity (large armed adult vs much smaller unarmed juvenile) and, in the face of that, apparent 'get off scott-free' appearance. There may be more to it than that, but there you go, thus far. We'll see. And here's a thought: if it weren't for the stink being raised, we might not see any more details.



Something is missing, there is a reason the police did not arrest the guy on the spot. 
may be. I generally expect that when a citizens shoots/kills in self-defense... he's very likely going to find LEO/the state to be his adversary for the next few months. Or years.
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2012, 11:54:16 AM »
IG. Thanks for the video, very enlightening. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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