Zimmerman: New Time Line Analysis

[lgm270]

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/evidence-that-trayvon-martin-doubled-back

Interesting time line analysis of the Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin shooting.  According to this analysis, Trayvon doubled back and attacked Zimmerman.   By comparing the length of  Zimmerman's 911 call, this analysis shows that Martin  was only .1 mile away from his destination and that he would have reached it if he had continued walking toward it, rather than doubling back and ambushing Zimmerman.   This may show that Martin was the aggressor. 

Interesting analysis.  The kind of thing that has needed to be done.   All of the facts are fragmentary about this incident  and new ones continue to come it.  I don't necessarily endorse this person's conclusions because I haven't  yet tried to  cross-check it,  but it's an interesting analysis that is on the right track.   This is the first serious attempt to really determine what happened by comparing a map with the time line established by the 911 calls.   A good beginning, but more work remains to be done.

One nagging fact:  Zimmerman was in a motor vehicle and Martin was on foot.  Zimmerman must have gotten out of his truck to engage Martin.  If Zimmerman had remained in his truck, he could easily have spotted Martin approaching him and could merely h ave stepped on the gas to avoid a physical encounter.   Personally I think it was irresponsible for Zimmerman to have gotten out of his truck.  He should not have left a position of safety in order to engage someone who was not an imminent threat, especially after the 911 dispatcher advised him against following Martin.

[r29l20]

One nagging fact:  Zimmerman was in a motor vehicle and Martin was on foot.  Zimmerman must have gotten out of his truck to engage Martin.  If Zimmerman had remained in his truck, he could easily have spotted Martin approaching him and could merely h ave stepped on the gas to avoid a physical encounter.   Personally I think it was irresponsible for Zimmerman to have gotten out of his truck.  He should not have left a position of safety in order to engage someone who was not an imminent threat, especially after the 911 dispatcher advised him against following Martin.

If that's the case, I have to agree. But that does not in any way excuse martin for his actions. He was up to something,being there, if it weren't for that ,this never would have happened in the first place. The buzz word lately is (profiling), well if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. If you don't want to be profiled in a negitive way, don't portray yourself as a gang banging window peeping thug.

[BUGEYE]

In a neighborhood near mine, teenage blacks will string out across the street and try to block you.
my wife has had to call the police a couple of times.

[r29l20]

In a neighborhood near mine, teenage blacks will string out across the street and try to block you.
my wife has had to call the police a couple of times.

And then they wonder why we profile them. Their to stupid to figure it out.

[Dand]

I hope that enough unassailable facts come out so we all know what really happened.  Its terrible that the kid is dead but there are so many possible scenarios its hard to know what to believe.  I just hope all can accept the facts if they are clear. In my jury experiences they rarely are clear - especially with all the games both sides play to get evidence suppressed etc. But the media needs to step back and let the courts work and quit whipping up emotions on all sides. I still wonder what might have transpired if Zimmerman had had more training, used pepper spray, had complied w the 911 instructions.  But Zimmerman truly might be the victim too - a lot of 17 yr old boys of all colors are way too cocky for their own good.

[r29l20]

I hope that enough unassailable facts come out so we all know what really happened.  Its terrible that the kid is dead but there are so many possible scenarios its hard to know what to believe.  I just hope all can accept the facts if they are clear. In my jury experiences they rarely are clear - especially with all the games both sides play to get evidence suppressed etc. But the media needs to step back and let the courts work and quit whipping up emotions on all sides. I still wonder what might have transpired if Zimmerman had had more training, used pepper spray, had complied w the 911 instructions.  But Zimmerman truly might be the victim too - a lot of 17 yr old boys of all colors are way too cocky for their own good.

Your statments are true, but I have to wonder if he did attack Zimmerman. Blacks only act tough when they have a whole herd of them around.

[CannonKrazy]

 
Your statments are true, but I have to wonder if he did attack Zimmerman. Blacks only act tough when they have a whole herd of them around or have a video camera stuck in their face.

 
There, fixed it for ya.

[r29l20]

Your statments are true, but I have to wonder if he did attack Zimmerman. Blacks only act tough when they have a whole herd of them around or have a video camera stuck in their face.

 
There, fixed it for ya.

Thanks Pardner.

[lakota]

Here is another timeline- Either the court promptly burns Zimmerman to the ground or the "activists" wil promptly burn Miami to the ground. No other facts need be considered.

[BUGEYE]

If zimmerman is found guilty, there goes their excuse to do some "window" shopping.

[lakota]

Who needs an excuse? If he is found guilty it will be celebratory rioting. Just like in L.A. when the Lakers are playing for the championship-win or lose there will be rioting.

[r29l20]

If zimmerman is found guilty, there goes their excuse to do some "window" shopping.

Who needs an excuse? If he is found guilty it will be celebratory rioting. Just like in L.A. when the Lakers are playing for the championship-win or lose there will be rioting.

But we must not profile those poor inocent blacks.

[lgm270]

I lived in LA during the 1992 Rodney King Riots....it's very dangerous living  near large numbers of a race whose solution to most problems is to  riot, loot and burn something down.

[SHOOTALL]

Your statments are true, but I have to wonder if he did attack Zimmerman. Blacks only act tough when they have a whole herd of them around or have a video camera stuck in their face.

 
There, fixed it for ya.

 
I would suggest you not confuse mouthy with tough . I have lived in/near a city that has a large black population for over 50 years and can assure there are tough blacks that are very honest and good people. What I believe you are decribing are the people who start to get mouthy to build up courage or whip themselves into a frenzy to fight. They are easy to stop . Its the quiet ones with courage that would be a threat if attacked they know what they can do. This is true of all people though.

[BUGEYE]

ABC news this morning showed the back of zimmermans head with a lot of blood on it.
the media will try to stir things up.  they like riots and stuff.

[r29l20]

Zimmerman apologizes today,(in chains)The circus has begun. This could be any one of us.

[r29l20]

I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. It sounds like the defence is chipping away at the prosicutions arguments, about him being a poor little boy. That does not change, anything. He was still 6-2. Next time Zimmerman should check his licence first I guess. The circus is in town.

[CannonKrazy]

Your statments are true, but I have to wonder if he did attack Zimmerman. Blacks only act tough when they have a whole herd of them around or have a video camera stuck in their face.

 
There, fixed it for ya.

 
I would suggest you not confuse mouthy with tough . I have lived in/near a city that has a large black population for over 50 years and can assure there are tough blacks that are very honest and good people. What I believe you are decribing are the people who start to get mouthy to build up courage or whip themselves into a frenzy to fight. They are easy to stop . Its the quiet ones with courage that would be a threat if attacked they know what they can do. This is true of all people though.

Very true. In my experience the more a person has talk the less they have to back it up. My grandpa always said leave the quiet ones alone because they're the ones that will kick your a**

 
ShootAll and TheWillMaster, good comment I agree. The folks we see in the streets or on TV shouting and making speeches are nothing more than loud mouth trouble makers. These are the people who usually start the trouble then step aside to cheer it on when the real fight breaks out.
Many folks (black and white) are sitting back quietly as you said watching for any sign of trouble. My guess would be most people want to get along and live a peaceful life without incident but are ready and willing to defend themselves if the need should come.

[r29l20]

It seams that the law is not always black and white, it's all black.

[yellowtail3]

It seams that the law is not always black and white, it's all black.

Hmmm... is that what is seams?

[Cuts Crooked]

Hmmm... is that what is seams?


"is".............LOL! Gotcha!