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Almost Done!!! RE: Browning a barrel & Sanity
« on: January 31, 2004, 06:59:55 AM »
I've almost gotten it all there!  

It's taken me a month of patience and diligence, but I finally have the stock, barrel and furniture of my Lyman GPR to where I want it.    The finish on the barrel has turned beautifully, thanks to some advice from the folks at Laurel Mountain Forge.  I took their Barrel Brown, applied like it should be and then (this is the advice) heated the barrel with a propane torch, and applied beeswax, filling the metal pores.  To get rid of the globs and smooth out the wax, I took a pair of my wife's old nylons and ran them along the barrel flats.  It looks better than the Linseed Oil I tried, and is more durable than just oil on the rust finish.   Yes!!!

As for the stock, I've been using LMF's Permalyn finishing products.  It's glossy, so it doesn't look "traditional" (so sue me!), but it wasn't going to any way with the Lyman 57 GPR sight going on the rear.  I got lucky with the wood from Lyman, and ended up with a really nice, tiger-striped piece of European walnut that LMF's products have really brought out the different color highlights in.

I'm still waiting on some missing screws from Lyman to put it all together.  Man, I just hope that this thing shoots as good as it looks!  I can't wait.

Matt

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Almost Done!!! RE: Browning a barrel &
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2004, 05:28:45 PM »
Congrats to you!  I'm certain you'll be making more good memories with it.  Thanks for letting us know.

Take care, have fun....
Roger D.

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Almost Done!!! RE: Browning a barrel &
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2004, 05:21:41 AM »
Please remember that it might take some shootin to get the sharpness and burrs off the lands.  Accuracy improves with the ammount of patches you shoot out the bore.

Be sure to scrub the barrel with hot soapy water before you shoot it.  I don't know if you have a lube you like, but I found that cleaning, and amount of shots between cleaning, improves if you never put oil or a patroleum product in your barrel.

May you have the best of times with your Lyman.  It sounds like a great rifle.

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Almost Done!!! RE: Browning a barrel &
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2004, 06:55:40 AM »
swecology, How many aplications of LMF browning solution did it take to get the finish? Did you use any artificial means of creating humidity?I will soon be doing a underhammer barrel and would very much like to here of your experience with this product.

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TO GRUMP: LMF BARREL BROWN
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2004, 03:49:12 PM »
Grump,

First thing I have to say, is that I'm in Arizona.  Pretty dry, typically.  I hung wet rags up in my shop and kept the door closed for the twelve-hour period between applications of the solution.  I kept the door open, though, when we had a nice three-day storm roll through here in January. That helped out a lot.  If you live in a humid area, you probably don't have to use the rags.  If your house is dried out (low humidity) because of your furnace running in the winter ( or a/c in the summer), you should probably use the rags.

It took me a good two weeks to get a finish.  But, mine is not typical, as it took me three times.  First time, I finished it with boiled linseed oil, and it looked horrible!  Mostly it was my fault in not knowing how to handle linseed oil, but the end result was still bad.  It took three hours with a quart of acetone from Ace Hardware and a rag to strip all of it off.  I hung the barrel again, and re-applied the solution for a second period of about 3-4 days, at 12 hour intervals.  When it had reached the color I wanted, I tried (upon the advice of the people who had sold me the solution) simply applying Outer's Gun Oil to it, to finish it.  It leached the rust out, perpetually lightening the finish.  

Third time worked like a charm.  I called Laurel Mountain Forge and asked THEM what to do, to finish it.  They suggested that after the treatments were done, I 1) gently heating the barrel with a torch, 2) applying pure beeswax to the metal, allowing it to penetrate the pores, and 3) removing the excess (smoothing it, really) with a pair of old nylons.  O.K., I rehung the barrel and furniture, and started applying the solution, going for a period of 5 days with reapplication every 12 hours.  I also began calling around Apache Junction, Queen Creek and Tempe, AZ., looking for beeswax.  Found some at a swap meet (where a bee keeper had a family stall) for $1.50.  By the end of the process, after the wax application, it worked out beautifully and the finish is fairly durable.

There are some other things I did also.  I was very concientious of degreasing everything on a periodic basis with either Birchwood Casey Gunscrubber or Acetone.  This helped to ensure an even coloring w/o light spots.  I wore rubber gloves (from the pharmacy or Wal-Mart) to prevent finger prints - they may or may not disappear with the use of the Browning solution - hence the extra precaution of the degreaser.  I also, before the evening application of the solution ( I did mine at 8AM and 8PM), "carded" the scale off of the barrel using a rough cloth, in my case, a shop rag.  You may have to use #0000 steel wool - I did after my second fiasco.  If you do, degrease it also with acetone.  The steel wool got rid of a lot of the harsh scale that the gun oil had leached out.  But whatever you feel you have to use, card the metal.  You will get a better surface out of it.  

That's about it.  It took effort and patience,but I am very happy with the results.  I hope it works out for you too.  Hope this helps.

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CROWFEATHER: THANKS
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2004, 03:59:57 PM »
Thank you for the advice.  I will pay attention to it, especially the cleaning regime.  Do you have a lube you would recommend?  I was going to start with Track of the Wolfs mink oil, but I am open to other suggestions as to where to start.

Also, which propellant and load amount do you suggest I start with?  I have a supply of Goex FFg and Pyrodex RS.