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Some interesting German cannons
« on: June 09, 2012, 11:24:07 AM »
A few distinctive cannons at Bayerisches Armeemuseum, Ingolstadt, Bavaria.
I guess that these first two cannon would be classified as falconets or amusettes.
Photos: Scott Moore on flickr.
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/41/79250107_9365bec0c5_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/38/79250138_587f996e48_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/40/79250175_65bc003fc1_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/36/79250204_6803ac6798_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/41/79250240_200d3e367a_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/38/79250273_b495802307_o.jpg

I’ve never seen one quite like this before; it’s evidently a "hinterlader" (breechloader).
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/36/79251953_e66324d85a_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/37/79251905_7dbd0eb211_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/40/79251853_a8cd611ab9_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/43/79252012_26225df90b_o.jpg


I’d like to be able to see that part of the mechanism that would have been attached to the carriage, but I’m still going to assume that the teeth located on both sides of the breech rings on these two bronze beauties were part of an elevating system.
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/36/79249714_6d57c0b421_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/43/79249653_f1b63a1bae_o.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/39/79249610_4bc71f9582_o.jpg




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Re: Some interesting German cannons
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 06:36:40 PM »
Fantastic photos, thanks for the post.  Those guns are works of art.

I've noticed that a lot of early guns have very long and narrow barrels.  Can anyone shed some light on why that was?
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Re: Some interesting German cannons
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2012, 12:44:45 AM »
Very interesting.
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Re: Some interesting German cannons
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 02:31:52 AM »
Quote from: subdjoe on June 09, 2012, 06:36:40 PM
I've noticed that a lot of early guns have very long and narrow barrels.  Can anyone shed some light on why that was?

Subdjoe,
Here's a link to an article by Bryan K Brown published in "THE ARTILLERYMAN" Fall 2008 Vol 29, no.4. The problem here is that the photographer provided next to no information about these two pieces on flickr, so all we can do is guess at bore size. I agree with your and flagman's comments though, these are certainly things of beauty.
http://www.jaegerkorps.org/amusette.html
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Re: Some interesting German cannons
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2012, 07:04:09 PM »
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/43/79249653_f1b63a1bae_o.jpg

I was thinking about the damage to the chase that can be seen on one of the large German guns, and was considering the commonly held belief that bronze cannon usually bulge or split, but seldom burst, when it occurred to me that this gun may actually be a casualty of WWII.

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Re: Some interesting German cannons
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 01:37:22 AM »
On second thought, chances are that the teeth on the base rings of these two barrels were simply maneuvered by pry bars, so as to elevate the pieces by adjusting quoins.

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Re: Some interesting German cannons
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 05:17:51 AM »
Very ornate work done on the first shown small bore.
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