Author Topic: ??????? WHAT IS IT ???????? (Read 716 times)

whitecloud · « **on:** January 27, 2004, 06:34:22 AM »

I have a military rifle that has been around for ever.It is missing bolt and clip.The only markings are on the barrel.They are "1950 VIII" and the serial #F7003.It is a carbine and shoots a very short round,I believe to be 6.5mm.(by looking).The opening where you put the clip is only 1 1/4" long. :? :? Can take pics if someone will post for me.

Thanks In advance!!

S.S. · « **Reply #1 on:** January 27, 2004, 08:53:35 AM »

a short carbine "bolt action" I assume?

Do a search on the internet for a Spanish "Destroyer" carbine.
and see if that is it.
It actually fires a 9mm Largo cartridge.

crow_feather · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2004, 01:59:02 PM »

You might look into the Greek rifles also

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whitecloud · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2004, 11:10:40 PM »

Quote from: S.Sumner

a short carbine "bolt action" I assume?

Do a search on the internet for a Spanish "Destroyer" carbine.
and see if that is it.
It actually fires a 9mm Largo cartridge.

nope noe a spanish,it looks american or british? who knows.could not find pics on greek

crow_feather · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2004, 05:11:15 AM »

Go to Gun Broker, Auction Arms, and Guns America, Type in - 1950 VIII in the search and see if what comes up matches yours. Then type in greek and see if anything comes close.

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Chuck White · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2004, 05:36:25 AM »

Whitecloud;
Go to one of these web sites and see if this is what you have!
I have one of the Destroyer carbines, it's a really fun gun to shoot!

www.9mmlargo.com/cartridge and go down and click on Destroyer carbine!

You can go directly to the picture of the carbine!
Go to: www.9mmlargo.com/destroyer/index.htm

I hope this helps you out a little! At least you will know whether you DO or DON'T have one of these!

If you do, dig around on this site and you will find a lot of resourses available!

whitecloud · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2004, 08:21:46 AM »

It is not a spanish destroyer,at least nothing like the pics I found.I have found the followin info on the barrel after some more coaxin with 0000 steel wool>gardone VT 91. any ideas?

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crow_feather · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2004, 08:57:33 AM »

Whitecloud,

It is Italian

whitecloud · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2004, 09:08:23 AM »

well I think we have it!! It is I am 98% sure a 6.5mm Carcano calvery carbine.Guns mag just happened to run an article on the Carcanos this month,So it was a good read.glad I get this one.This is the info I have:

The model 91 calvery carbine was first adopted in 1893,in 6.5mm and was superceded by the model 38 in 7.35mm in 1938.
The calvery carbine was changed back to a 6.5mm(from a 7.35) in 1940.They appear with both fixed and adj sights,zeroed at 200 yrds.It sports a 17 3/4" barrel and is 36" overall,weighing in at just under 7 lbs..
ALL of these spec hold true for mine.The wood to metal fit is SUPERB for a military weapon,The bore is XXFine surface rust on metal.This thing reminds you of an over bored 10/22.

So there we have it. Now I need to know where to find a bolt,clips and rear sight.

Side note: On nov 22 1963 Lee Harvey Oswald using a 1938 model Carcano in 6.5x52 alledgelly assassanated John F Kennedy.

SBF · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2004, 09:42:32 AM »

Glad you figured it out!

Try Numrich for spare parts, they may have some in stock.

Jack Crevalle · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2004, 12:39:05 PM »

One question? How does this coorespond to the opening for the magazine being 1.25 inches long? The opening for a 51mm case has to be 2.5 inches or probably 3.