Author Topic: Michigan's hog purge  (Read 1747 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline JeffG

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
  • Gender: Male
Michigan's hog purge
« on: April 07, 2012, 09:11:22 AM »
The Michigan DNR is going farm-to farm seizing and shooting pigs that don't fit the Winnie the Pooh piglet model. Posession of heritage pig breeds, even in feedlots for hormone free-grassfed pork is now a felony.  I have been vocal in the Michigan region forum; if too much, I apologize. This seems a little silly, but these admin rules and seizures are DNR rules, not legislative law.  It seems to me to be out of hand, and runaway government. It is/was also the closest I could go for hog hunting, even if it is high fence.  Too bad!
 
 
Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff

Offline Land_Owner

  • Global Moderator
  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (31)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4536
    • Permission Granted - Land Owner
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2012, 12:18:57 AM »
Sad really.  Not knowing why the MDNR is waging this war is probably exacerbating the issue.  Pretty good likeness of Rodney Stokes though!

The State once eradicated all white tailed deer in several Counties in Florida because cattle was infected with tick fever.

Quote
The State Live Stock Sanitary Board was created in 1923 (Ch. 9201, Laws) to regulate Florida's livestock industry. The board regulated the import and export of meat and livestock, inspected meat sellers, and controlled animal diseases such as cattle tick fever, hog cholera, and tuberculosis.

 One of the major functions of the Board was the eradication of tick fevers. In the early 1900s, the Texas Tick fever entered Florida from imported cattle. By the 1920s, the State Livestock Sanitary Board was requiring all cattle owners to dip their cows with an arsenic solution every 14 days. The state reimbursed them 3 cents for every head of cattle. In 1935, the tropical tick fever broke resulting in more treatments and Board-led destruction of thousands of white-tail deer which they believed harbored the tick. The program was continued until the 1950s.

The State then purchased deer from various sources, including Wisconsin, for reintroduction where the depleted resource was created.  What a racket...

Offline JeffG

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
  • Gender: Male
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2012, 03:52:22 AM »
Quote
The State then purchased deer from various sources, including Wisconsin, for reintroduction where the depleted resource was created.  What a racket...

How ironic.... State of Wisconsin DNR is erradicating whole counties of deer for the"solution" for CWD. Junk science is what Uncle Ted called it.
Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff

Offline RevJim

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 780
  • Gender: Male
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 03:50:28 AM »
 Utah DWR came in the back door too, May 8 is our deadline. Not enough people out here even know one 'can" hunt pigs in Utah, so there is no outcry.
  I think Uncle Ted has property with pigs on it in MI also, I wonder how he is involved in opposing this "Hog Purge"?

Offline ihookem

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 763
  • Gender: Male
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 02:23:43 PM »
They're trying to get rid of pigs cause Obama is a muslim and they think pigs are unclean! Well,,, it's almost as absurd as the real reason they are doing it. Matter of fact I don't know why they are doing it. Guess big government doesn't need a reason, they just do it.  Typical out of control government.

Offline 35Remington

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 53
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 03:08:16 AM »
Wait, you people realize this is a JOKE, right? 

Offline JeffG

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
  • Gender: Male
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2012, 05:28:43 AM »
What do you mean? 
Michigan DNR has outlawed certain breeds of heritage pigs, and is closing down high fence hunting of European-style hogs. The misinformation I was talking about, is the execution of that goal, (how the department personel are accomplishing it) not the letter of the law.
Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff

Offline 35Remington

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 53
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 12:15:57 PM »
What do you mean?


What I mean is that this poster has got to be a joke.


Distinct skeletal structure? All vertebrates have that. 
Straight OR curly tail? All pigs with tails are now invasive.
Erect OR floppy ears? All pigs with ears are illegal.
Any characteristics not currently known to the DNR?  Get real.


Some 8th grader in Iowa made this poster, and he's got y'all all worked up about it.  The icing on the cake for me is the apostrophe in juveniles.  Get real.  It's either that, or the Michigan DNR is comprised of serious, serious morons.  I'm an optimist, so I'll cast my lot with the former.

Offline JeffG

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
  • Gender: Male
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 02:42:58 PM »
You are right. Can you imagine traffic laws written like that? What the heck?!
Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff

Offline 35Remington

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 53
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 02:45:21 PM »
For the record, I called the number at the bottom of the poster, but no one answered the phone.  We'll see if they return my call tomorrow.

Offline Land_Owner

  • Global Moderator
  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (31)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4536
    • Permission Granted - Land Owner
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 01:01:41 PM »
867-5309

Offline JeffG

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
  • Gender: Male
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 07:01:02 AM »
It would appear that the head of the Michigan DNR has been given a new appoint ment. (Not fired :)   and three others in high DNR positions ared under
Investigation. Meanwhile hog hunting continues.
Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff

Offline SHOOTALL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23836
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 09:12:58 AM »
So it's all HOGWASH ?  ;D
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

Offline .22-5-40

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 253
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2012, 08:04:13 PM »
And just where are all of these feral hogs in MI?  I have been asking every deer, bird, and other small game hunters, as well as land owners for the past 5 years if they have spotted any or even seen sign of rootings, etc..all have come up with the same answer...NADA!.

Offline Scibaer

  • Central Michigan, USA, Earth
  • Trade Count: (25)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1686
  • FATE FAVORS THE WISE
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2012, 09:30:58 PM »
the feral hog problem in michigan is way way way overstated.
 in the lower pennisula there are three regions that a few, 3 or 4 herds of a few pigs each have been seen, and fewer still have been shot.  just like the deer baiting / no baiting / some baiting issue, the mi dnr is out of control

Offline JeffG

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
  • Gender: Male
Re: Michigan's hog purge
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2012, 11:30:47 AM »
Thanks Sci baer, I think you nailed it.
Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff