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22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« on: August 15, 2012, 09:55:23 AM »
Hello everyone,


I recently bought my first rifle, a 2006 Huntsman .50, and joined up here when I found this great forum. I never expected to find such a specific and active resource, wow!


I hope I haven't missed this answer in reading back through the site. Apparently other barrels are available for my gun, including a 22 Hornet. This isn't mentioned in the 2005 Barrel Accessory Program brochure that came with the gun, but it does appear on the hr1871.com Web site. I gather I have an SB2 since the model year is 2006.


So I'm wondering with the 22 Hornet barrel, and maybe the question is applicable to other replacement barrels too: do I need a different forearm? The 22 barrel can't possibly be the same outside diameter as the .50, can it?


Does anyone here have the Hornet + Huntsman configuration? How do you like it? How would you say it stacks up against an ordinary 1-shot 22? I would use the 22 for training and occasional varmint control.


Grateful for any insights and recommendations,
Jason

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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 10:52:35 AM »
H&r will not install a hornet barrel on you huntsman frame. Your frame is an Sb1 large firing pin.  You could fit a hornet barrel yourself but you would have problems with primer flow because of firing pin.  Keep reading the facts and threads there are lots of discussions on this subject.
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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 11:39:24 AM »
Ok thanks for clearing that up. I must have been mistaken thinking I had read that 2006 would be an SB2 and didn't know about the firing pin difference. I can't find where I read it so I must have made it up.  :)


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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2012, 01:04:31 PM »
Some Huntsman came as combos on SB2 frames with a centerfire rifle barrel, the easiest way to find out what frame you have is call H&R and ask what accessory barrels can be fitted, they can tell by the serial number. But be aware, unless they've changed their policy they won't fit a firearm barrel to an Huntsman frame if you don't provide a copy of the 4473.

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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 05:58:15 PM »
I will call HR to double check on my frame by serial number. I'm not sure about the 4473, I did have to get a background check to purchase the rifle so I wonder if the form would be on file at the store or something. Obviously I'm a noob with this stuff. Thanks for the replies!
Jason

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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 04:59:20 AM »
Jason,
 
NEF did a run of some Huntsman Combo's, they were all blued and wood. There were 2 different SB1 combos, .50 cal/12ga smooth bore with bead, and .50 cal/12ga rifled bore with sights. The only SB2 combo they had was a .50 cal/.243 Win. These were produced back in the 2003 time frame, I don't think they were big sellers, because they were available for several years. I think they were all from that one run (over run). At least all the ones I ever seen had the plastic sights, which were changed to Williams Fire Sights in 2004. The breech plug is another giveaway, the combos would have been the older 7/8" plugs, if yours is a 2006 it should have the newer 5/8" breech plug. The breech plugs were changed in 2005.
 
If yours is a stainless steel barrel, nickle frame, with black synthetic stock, it is also a SB1 and can only be fittted with shotgun barrrels or muzzleloader barrels.
 
There is one way to be certain if your frame is a SB1 or an SB2. If you remove your stock and ther is only one threaded hole in the butt end of the reciever it is a SB1. If there is a threaded hole and other holes (skeletonized) from the investment casting, it would be a SB2, which is very unlikely.
 
H&R does have some newer combos that use the SB1 frame, but they are 12 ga/.44 mag, and 20 ga/.357 mag. Shotgun and pistol calibers, not high pressure center fire rifle calibers.
 
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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2012, 09:54:36 AM »
one other option, which I did myself.  it could be a rifle frame that was fitted with a 50 cal barrel.  I did that with a 30-06, then sold the 06 barrel.  Just a thought. 
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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 10:37:11 AM »
I think you'll find factory Huntsman frames are marked "Huntsman", pic is Busta's Supersmoker .45.  ;)

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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2012, 05:55:42 PM »
Thanks for all the answers!


I will pull off the stock and call HR just to be sure what frame I have. My rifle is


blued with wood stock
says Huntsman on the receiver
was not sold as a combo
plastic sights
and yes the breech plug is 5/8


I purchased it new, so I know its configuration hasn't been tinkered with by a prior owner. [size=78%]I've seen the illustration of the butt stock end of the receiver so I know what to look for when I pull it off. [/size][size=78%]Will update here when I wrap up the detective work.[/size]

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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2012, 08:49:40 AM »
Well, if you bought it as a Huntsman, it is a SB1 frame and cannot be fitted with center fire rifle barrels.
 
Quick,
 
I am pretty sure the SB2 Huntsman Combos had the ~HUNTSMAN~ on the frame as well.
 
I have also seen one odd ball Huntsman from 2002 that had the same type of color case hardening that the Buffalo Classics have. It was stamped ~HUNTSMAN~ on the frame, and was beautiful. I went back to that shop the next weekend to pick it up, but it was gone. I am sure it was a SB2 frame, but cannot be positive. I have never seen another like it, before or since.  :'(
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Re: 22 Hornet barrel on Huntsman
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2012, 12:03:17 PM »
Thanks Busta, H&R will fit 357mag and 44mag barrels to SB1 frames made 1987 and later, but as I stated before, their policy is they  won't fit any centerfire barrel to a Huntsman frame without a copy of the original 4473(pending changes to their policy).

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