I picked up a siaga 12 guage last week and this thing is about as much fun as a guy can have with his pants on. No drums yet but i have two 10 round stick mags. been shooting a 1 1/4 load of combined OO and #3buck. recoil is about like a 20 guage with field loads. I put out a bunch of milk jugs and powder cans full of water and just cut loose with it. It would be about the last gun on earth i would want to be on the wrong side of!!