Author Topic: Trying to figure out the new Ruger gunsight scout rifle.. (Read 1115 times)

ironglow · « **on:** July 16, 2012, 11:50:01 PM »

It looks like a nice rifle, but I am wondering about it's use, so I am asking a couple questions..

1) Under what circumstances would a bolt action user need a 10 round magazine ?

2) If the 10 round magazine is required for some circumstance...wouldn't such a situation also require an auto-loader, such as an AR10 ?

..Just wondering...

Swampman · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2012, 12:43:16 AM »

1) Tactical

2) An autoloader is heavy, unreliable, and won't handle improvised ammo (lead bullets over Unique) well.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:01:11 AM »

It would seem a 10 round mag would be nice if all you had time to do was grab the gun with what ammo was on board and run.
The bolt gun is less prone to breakage ,
as for need in a fight , a scout ( person by himself in hostle lands) would be expected to avoid contact with superior forces . The bolt gun with long range accuracy 400-500 yards would be handy to snipe and run where useful. Say a small group was tracking you ,a well places shot may slow them down or cause them to cut and run .
like mentioned any ammo , weight etc all play a part.
I wouls add a well sighted rifle with a scope mounted by way of a picitnny rail could be stored in much less room than an AR-10 or anything. Also it looks like a hunting rifle not what some would precieve as a machine gun.
add a 10 mm Glock and the guy would still offer alot of fire power.

I know its tatical these days its the buzz word. But what Ruger has is a good "walking rifle "

Swampman · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:14:45 AM »

Pretty well sums it up. I plan on getting 3 & 5 round mags too. It was designed as a one rifle that does it all sort of thing.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:22:52 AM »

I have been thinking of adding a mag set up to a 20 inch Rem 700 tatical I have . Trying to decide on adding iron sights . The gun has a threaded bbl already and if I decide to get it a slincer may be nice on a scout rifle . You wouldn't want folks showing up every time you harvested food .

I would add to the above that a mag is a faster reload and a better way to store/ carry ammo on the move over loose rounds.

Swampman · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2012, 02:00:19 AM »

I'd like to find a Model 700 Youth barreled action with sights in .223 to install in an Alaskan Ti stock with a magazine setup.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2012, 03:40:51 AM »

sounds good .
I have a Ruger Int. in 308 that I like alot. It shoots well has factory iron sights , full stock( may it offers some bbl protection. BBL is 20 inch . Still had Ruger scope mounts . I wonder if the mag set up would work on this gun ?

ironglow · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2012, 05:01:09 AM »

You have cleared some of it up..and Swampy has a very good point as to the versatility of the bolt in accepting non-standard loads..
I see Savage has joined along in the game also..and how many others ? Guess they are just answering the demand..

Swampman · « **Reply #8 on:** July 17, 2012, 05:06:05 AM »

Steyr makes one. It's the most comfortable rifle I've ever held.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #9 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:17:14 AM »

Its a concept that has been around for years and now the magic of marketing is being applied . Think Britt jungle carbine for one of several.

qwikrick · « **Reply #10 on:** July 17, 2012, 08:02:21 AM »

Personaly I think its a handy little rifle and I love mine.

Swampman · « **Reply #11 on:** July 17, 2012, 10:16:09 AM »

I like mine.

Dave in WV · « **Reply #12 on:** July 18, 2012, 03:39:06 PM »

If the rear receiver bridge was milled for stripper clips it may not have the fire power of a Brit Enfield but those on the receiving end would like them less.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2012, 12:09:21 AM »

Wouldn't the magazines do the same and insure cleaner ammo? The Britts didn't replace mags often though they could have.

Dave in WV · « **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2012, 02:22:23 AM »

If you have to reload magazines quickly the stripper clips work well. If you have extra magazines loaded they are usually faster for a reload.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #15 on:** July 19, 2012, 02:40:55 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on July 17, 2012, 01:22:52 AM

I have been thinking of adding a mag set up to a 20 inch Rem 700 tatical I have . Trying to decide on adding iron sights . The gun has a threaded bbl already and if I decide to get it a slincer may be nice on a scout rifle . You wouldn't want folks showing up every time you harvested food .

I would add to the above that a mag is a faster reload and a better way to store/ carry ammo on the move over loose rounds.

this is my idea of a good set-up. that silencer could be a God-send after obama declares martial-law.

Bugflipper · « **Reply #16 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:34:36 AM »

The fal may be a better option. With the gas system they will shoot blanks to hot loads. As long as the powder charge is stout enough for the bullet to clear the barrel it will reliably cycle. No need in posting about reliability, plenty out there on them. If a fellow wants a slower rate of fire, longer after shot target acquisition time, slower mag changes and more recoil, the scout would be the perfect alternative.

The ruger is heavier than the parameters for a scout rifle so that lessens the gap to a semi.

Swampman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:51:52 AM »

If I wanted a semi ( I don't) the M1A would be my choice. No use for the FAL personally....It won't cycle with homemade ammo....for long.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:27:31 AM »

sorry guys but I just dont see it. My ar10 holds 20, is dead reliable and will shoot circles around it. It routinely shoots 3/4 in 5 shot groups and ive shot 20 shot one inch groups with it. Its more accurate and can put alot more lead down range in a short time and is faster to reload. Only advantage i see to that ruger is cost. that said everyones tastes in guns is a bit differnt and if everyone thought the way i did it would be a boring world.

Swampman · « **Reply #19 on:** July 19, 2012, 09:05:15 AM »

I will actually use this rifle a lot. I would never use an AR-10, FAL, or M1A for anything. I refuse to own a firearm I'll never use.

Bugflipper · « **Reply #20 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:23:23 AM »

Swampy I normally don't feed you, but I guess I might as well take the bait. If you don't and won't own the list of rifles how do you know what their longevity with a certain load is? BTW HK91 will also reliably cycle with 14 gr of unique behind a boolit. The problem with them is they eat brass with full power loads. FAL will do the standard 10-14 gr without a hiccup. Let me know how long it has left because my 16" has had about 5k lead rounds through it.

Swampman · « **Reply #21 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:49:16 AM »

I've owned them and worked on them. I don't like them for a lot of reasons.