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Bill to retain gun rights for vets.
« on: June 28, 2012, 09:17:10 AM »
Bill Defending Vets’ Gun Rights Filed - Again    Key Senate lawmakers are once again pushing legislation to stop veterans judged unable to handle their own finances from being barred from owning firearms.

The bill, sponsored by Sen. Richard Burr, R-NC, and Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., would require that veterans first are found to be a danger to themselves or others before losing their Second Amendment rights. Today, a veteran deemed by the Department of Veterans Affairs to be incapable of handling his own finances is included on the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS – which means he cannot own a firearm, nor can anyone else in the household, Burr said.

"There are veterans, spouses, family members who are deprived of their Second Amendment rights … based on an arbitrary decision by somebody at VA because they can't handle their own personal finances," Burr said Wednesday at a committee hearing. "These people are labeled as dangerous when it may be a physical disability that may not allow them to handle their personal finances."

VA estimates that about 127,000 veterans have been put on the list because the department determined they couldn't handle their personal finances.

A similar bill has already passed the House of Representatives.

In the Senate, the "Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act" has been filed at least three times before, going as far back as 2007. The version filed in 2009 was opposed by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which argued that it could cause guns to wind up in the hands of unsafe people.

The Brady Campaign had criticized Burr's legislation "in light of the Fort Hood shootings." Attorneys for the accused attacker, Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, claim he is mentally ill.

Burr's bill died in committee.

Burr, Webb and others backing the bill say no veteran should lose his or her gun rights without an order by a judge, magistrate or other judicial authority competent to make the call on whether the person is dangerous.

At Wednesday's hearing, VA officials said that is not a determination made by department officials who assess a veteran's ability to look after his finances.

Tom Murphy, director of the Veterans Benefits Administration's compensation service, said those who make the call on veterans are trained only to assess how well they're able to handle finances.

Richard Hipolit, assistant general counsel for the VA, said, "Our determination is just whether [someone] can handle financial affairs, and that automatically triggers the requirement to refer their names" to the NICS list.


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Re: Bill to retain gun rights for vets.
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 03:38:07 PM »
If being able to handle financial affairs was a requirement to own a firearm. No one in the banking industry or the FED would qualify. ;) Words to describe the contempt I have for S. Brady and anyone who is aligned with that herd of swine escape me!
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Re: Bill to retain gun rights for vets.
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2012, 02:06:26 AM »
my wife works with a lady who has a brother that's kinda slow and needs help getting the right insurance etc.  but he loves to hunt and fish (thanks to his dad).  he's proud to show his shotgun and .22 rifle and is totally safe with them.  of course he was taught from childhood, but a person who is a little slow, or a person with a head injury does not automatically become a raving maniac if you hand them a gun.
it's democrats wanting to control people that they hate.
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Re: Bill to retain gun rights for vets.
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 04:33:58 AM »
So you risk your arse in defense of your country( at least that is what it used to be) and as a Thank You for your Service you risk being disarmed. ::) :(
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Re: Bill to retain gun rights for vets.
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2012, 09:52:24 AM »
my wife works with a lady who has a brother that's kinda slow and needs help getting the right insurance etc.  but he loves to hunt and fish (thanks to his dad).  he's proud to show his shotgun and .22 rifle and is totally safe with them.  of course he was taught from childhood, but a person who is a little slow, or a person with a head injury does not automatically become a raving maniac if you hand them a gun.
it's democrats wanting to control people that they hate.



Not just democrats!There are some republicans out there that work just as hard to get our guns as the Democrats.
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[/size]She joined the staff of U.S. Representative Mike McKevitt (R-CO) as an Administrative Aide. She held the same position in Congressman Joseph J. Maraziti's office (R-NJ) from 1972-1974. During the next four years, She was Director of Administration and Coordinator of Field Services for the Republican National Committee.
[/size]She has been active in the gun control movement since the mid-1980s, She was Chair of Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI) in 1989. Two years later, she became Chair of the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, HCI's sister organization, a 501(c)(3) organization working to reduce gun violence through education, research, and legal advocacy.
[/size]She served as an Honorary Regent of the National Federation of Republican Women. Foundation.
[/size]In 1993, the Brady Bill was signed into law. "SARAH BRADY" As Paul Harvey use to say............Now you know the REST of the story ;) It's about control, but gun grabbers come in all shapes, sizes, genders and Party affiliation.There's plenty of Republicans out there that share the blame.

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