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Offline wileynet

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Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« on: June 30, 2012, 07:00:51 PM »
decided to try some 26 grain varmit grenades, cases are shaving copper off the jacket, after crushing 2 cases finnally  got one to load, uses the same dies(rcbs) to load 52 grains no problem any ideas
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Re: Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2012, 08:28:34 PM »
Try increasing the chamfer of the case mouth...

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Re: Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 12:05:42 AM »
geezerbiker had my first suggestion. I was recently loading 257 wby with 100 grain sierra flat based spitzers and ran out of older brass and broke a batch of new weatherby brass. I crushed a couple necks and couldnt figure out why. then a light bulb went off in my head. I had been in a hurry and didnt champer them. After champering they went in the necks much easier and i didnt have a single crushed case.
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Re: Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 12:13:14 AM »
Had an acquaintance call me a couple days ago. Had a similar problem with brand new Remington brass in 30-06. He bought it primed, and said he champered the necks. I asked him if he had run the brass thru the full lenght sizer die. He said he didn't. I told him to take the de-capping pin out, and run the rest of the brass thru it. Just maybe it had been sized down to far when Remington stamped it out. I haven't heard back from him, so maybe that curied it. gypsyman
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Re: Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 05:01:30 AM »
tried to camfer the necks, finally put some Dillon case  lube on the bullets by going slow got them to load, is there a way to increase the internal neck size when full length resizing
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Re: Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 05:17:23 AM »
Have you checked the diameter of the bullets?
Best of luck with those VG bullets and hitting anything with them. I've found their accuracy to be non-existent. Maybe that's why they are discontinuing production.

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Re: Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 06:50:12 AM »
always been told bullets should be .002 larger than case neck opening these measure .003 greater may stick to a boat tail bullet
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Re: Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 09:04:12 AM »
     Or procure another expander button .001" bigger !

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Re: Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2012, 12:57:01 PM »
decided to try some 26 grain varmit grenades, cases are shaving copper off the jacket, after crushing 2 cases finnally  got one to load, uses the same dies(rcbs) to load 52 grains no problem any ideas

I'm confuzzled here , are you trying to use the same seating die for both 204 as well as 223 ? Thats the only way I can see both 26g and 52g bullets , or I missing something ?
 
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Crushing brass with barnes varmit grenade
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 11:06:30 AM »
Best of luck with those VG bullets and hitting anything with them. I've found their accuracy to be non-existent. Maybe that's why they are discontinuing production.
They have proven very accurate from my .204 AR and right at MOA from my .223/5.56 ARs.  The only ones I've had problems with are the 6mm and I found that checking them for a fractured core prior to loading takes care of any problems. If you shake them and the rattle cull them for foulers because the core is bad. Otherwise they've shot great for me.  I use Reloader10x in .223 and Reloader19 in .243.