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Offline RLS@home

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Ruger LCR - 38+P or 357?
« on: July 28, 2012, 07:54:47 AM »
I like wheelgun reliability and I like Rugers. Just completed my CC requirements & looking hard at the LCR... I shoot 44 mags & 454 Casuls regularly so I'm not afraid of recoil, but I am wondering if the 357 in a 1-7/8" barrel is practical or just a bunch of additional noise & muzzle-blast? Thoughts on caliber selection?
Also, appreciate any first-hand experience with this firearm - how it shoots, best way to carry & conceal, best ammo, etc?
Thanks for any info,
Rls

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Re: Ruger LCR - 38+P or 357?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 09:07:24 AM »
Given the choice between two identical guns I would ALWAYS buy the 357 chambering for the versatility and resale

The 357 will shoot everything the 38 will but not vise versa.

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Re: Ruger LCR - 38+P or 357?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2012, 01:02:30 PM »
What R.W. Dale said makes more sense than what I'm about to say, but I'd buy a .38.  The little 5 shots are not easy on your head, hands or ears in .357.  Lots of blast that's hard to recover from for the follow up shots. 
I'm constantly looking for a like-new Colt .38.  6 shot, classic style.  Remember the 2 1/2" Diamondback with adjustable sights?  That was my idea of a nearly perfect carry gun.  The Detective Specials were very nice also, and good enough for plain clothes cops at that time.  The .38Spl. is as effective as it ever was, even more so with modern ammo.  Back before cops went to autos, my issued gun was a 2" Model 10.  Bulky for a .38, but I was mighty pleased with it, especially at the range.  Issued ammo was the Federal semi-wadcutter 158 in non +P.  Then we went to hollow points, then later to 158 hollow point +P.  I loved 'em all. 
Then the "wonder nine" came out and everybody wanted one.  Almost same ballistics as the .38, but many more rounds.  Then we changed to the big Smith and Wesson 10MM with sub-sonic ammo, just like the FBI.  Guns wouldn't work with the lower powered rounds.  Next was the .357 Sig, which is still the current issue.  I would have rather kept that Model 10. 
 It can be argued that the .38 has not kept up with the times, and that they were so popular then because not much else was available.  If your firepower in a gunfight was a .38 Spl, you were probably facing nothing bigger.  All that throws favor on the .357M.  I suppose that's one of the few good things about getting old.  One can look back at the older guns that had real class and were made out of real blued steel.  Not that plastic and scandium/titanium isn't better, it just doesn't have the same romance of the Colts or the older Smiths.  Romance won't save your hide, so I'd advise anyone shopping for a .38 vs. a .357 to think about the pros and cons of each.  But for me, make mine a .38 please, and hold the technology.     
 

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Re: Ruger LCR - 38+P or 357?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 12:49:16 AM »
My issue in not with the caliber---well it is, buttttt, read on.
The issue is with the size of gun chosen. Now I carried a PPK for more years than most of you boys here are old. That said, I can now carry what I want and what I always wanted was a larger & heavier frame.
The big frames are just as concealable as the small--and while I did it---I am not really a fan of pocket carry. That is a very subjective discussion and for another thread--as are--scabbards  ::) :o :o :-[ :-X ;) .
Heavier/larger guns are just a lot more stable in my hands. Recoils when just shooting the small guns is just not plesant--why bear up under unplesantness just for fun?
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Re: Ruger LCR - 38+P or 357?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 01:36:35 AM »
Personally, for a snubbie I'll take the .38.
First, I believe the .357LCR is a few ounces heavier than the .38LCR, and if you've ever carried a pocket gun for 8 or 10 hours a day you'll know a few ounces IS noticeable.
 
For me the amount of power increase you get in a .357 vs a .38 in a snubnose is just not worth the substantial increase in recoil and muzzle blast.  With enough practice the recoil can be mastered, but how much are you gonna practice when your hand begins to hurt after a couple cylinders full?
 
The muzzle blast from a .357 snubnose is what I can only describe as atrocious (to me anyway)!
On the range wearing hearing protection it's not a problem, but in the real world the prospect of touching off a couple rounds in a small room without any muffs or plugs just doesn't appeal to me.

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Re: Ruger LCR - 38+P or 357?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 02:00:11 AM »
Plus one for what spruce said.I have had the misfortune  to fire a 357( 4in K frame S&W)using 125 grain HP,in a basement of a brick building.I never wanted to do it again :o :'( "what is that you say,"I bought the 38 Spec version and am in love with it.I carry CorBon 110grain DPX in it. I practice with 158grain 38 Special, the recoil feels very similar.Doug
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Re: Ruger LCR - 38+P or 357?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 03:02:54 PM »
I like wheelgun reliability and I like Rugers. Just completed my CC requirements & looking hard at the LCR... I shoot 44 mags & 454 Casuls regularly so I'm not afraid of recoil, but I am wondering if the 357 in a 1-7/8" barrel is practical or just a bunch of additional noise & muzzle-blast? Thoughts on caliber selection?
Also, appreciate any first-hand experience with this firearm - how it shoots, best way to carry & conceal, best ammo, etc?
Thanks for any info,
Rls


I have the LCR 357.   Before it, I have been shooting primarily Glocks for about 20 years.  A loaded LCR 357 is about the same weight (~20 oz) as an UNLOADED Glock 26 "baby Glock".  I believe the loaded Glock 26 is more like 26 oz.   I carry it in a pocket holster and almost forget it is in my pocket.  It is easier to carry than the Glock 26 as it is lighter and less blocky in shape.

The LCR 357 frame that holds the cylinder is (blackened) stainless steel, while the frame on the LCR 38 SP is an aluminum allow.  The LCR 357 is slightly heavier, but when I was going to gun shows and checking them out side by side, I didn't feel a significant difference between the two.

The trigger is very nice.  It took some getting use to the DAO revolver after shooting Glocks for years, but I like it.  It is smooth and can be staged.  Also, I was never comfortable with carrying a Glock with a round in the chamber.  Because the DAO trigger is a longer (safer) trigger, I feel more comfortable carrying it fully loaded.

There were early reports of problems with flame cutting from the cylinder gap on the aluminum alloy framed LCR 38 SP.  It was probably an individual problem and haven't heard of it from others.  But It was also the primary reason I decided on the steel framed LCR 357 Magnum instead of the alloy framed LCR 38 SP.  I also shoot other 357 Magnums and I handload 357 Magnum.

I have shot a few different commercial 357 Magnum loads and they have quite a kick compared to the 38 SP.  At present I carry Speer Gold Dot .38 SP+P and may decided to carry it with 357 Magnum.  Although it has quite a kick, in a self defense situation, it is not that big a deal. I want to do more velocity testing on the different ammo.  I wouldn't want to practice all day with hot loaded 357 magnum as it would wear me out.  I practice with handload 357 Magnum that are not as hot.

I don't regret my purchase and I am glad I went with the 357 Magnum.
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Re: Ruger LCR - 38+P or 357?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2012, 07:24:28 AM »
I own a Ruger LCR 357 and my wife has an LCR 38.  While the weight doesn't seem significant when holding the guns, it does make a substantial difference in recoil.  My wife likes my 357 much better than her 38 when shooting 38 +Ps through them both.