removing a leg from the trigger spring ?

[irold]

Was reading Handgunner mag the other day and read an article by John Taffin.  He was testing some sort of Blackhawk and made mention that he routinly removes a grip panel from his new Rugers and removes one leg of the trigger spring from its post , giving them a trigger pull of around 3 lbs.  Says there is no adverse side effects.  Has anyone here heard of or done this ?  I recently ordered a 45 Bisley Blackhawk (one of the Williams Supply models ) and was wondering if I should try it.  Course I haven't picked it up yet .....maybe the triggers ok ...just maybe ... appreciate your thoughts.
 
regards , irold

[Graybeard]

Yup have done it. I think at this time only one of my four Ruger single actions has one leg of it off and yes it did drop the pull down to around 3-4 pounds and made a big improvement.

One has a professional action job and really the other two just don't need enough help to bother. I'd not mind having a professional job done on the other three but the cost to ship handguns is ridiculous and none of the local dealers will ship anything for ya.

[Duke0313]

Many have done it, and many recommend it. Try it, if you like it...great. If not, put it back the way it was.

[cwlongshot]

Many have done it, and many recommend it. Try it, if you like it...great. If not, put it back the way it was.

Yup me too, works good!  BUT you dont have to cut anything to try it!!!  Pull one leg off/down and try the trigger OR order a Wolff trigger spring kit and then you will have replacement should you not like it.
 
CW

[Bigeasy]

Irold- I have owned about a dozen Ruger SA's over the years, and have done it with all but one that really didn't need it.  Works well, and never had an issue.  Like CW said, another option would be a reduced power spring if the thought of removing a leg of the stock spring from the grip frame post bothers you.  Note that this modification will lessen trigger pull weight, but has no real effect on any grittiness or over travel that may be present.
 
Larry

[BruceP]

I've only had 3 blackhawks and tried it on all of them. It worked fine on 2 of them the other one you could feel the leg of the spring rub against the coil spring (hammer). I then found an online posting about adjusting (bending) the trigger spring. I did that to all of mine and have no fear of the two springs getting together and causing problems.

Bruce

[irold]

Sounds good.  Guess it can't hurt anything to give it a try.  Thanks
 
GB  , Yep your right about the cost of shipping.  I had considered sending this new Bisley to Bowen for his basic action/trigger work.  but the shipping is the killer.  Hey maybe this new Bisley will be a great "out of the box" shooter with a super action and trigger...
 
Thanks to all
 
regards , irold

[bluecow]

yup i did it to my sbh and couldnt tell the dif. so i put it back.  maybe my stiff old hand just are not that sensitive, or maybe im just numb.  did it to my 30 year old single six and the leg dragged on the spring so bad that at times the gun would lock up and not allow the cylinder to turn, back that went.  a hole pile of people swear by this and seam to do ok, they cant all be wrong, its not something that ill ever do again.

[Luckyducker]

I dropped one leg of the trigger spring in a Bisley Vaquero 45 and it is a very light trigger, some think it is too light for their likes but I have no problem with it.  A scoped Blackhawk in 41Mag that I hunt with needs no trigger work at all, but is a little heavier than the 45.  Trigger weight is a matter of personal preference and you never know until you try it.

[Ranch13]

It's called a poor mans trigger job, and been around for at least 40 years that I know of. Really works good when you get one that has a super stiff trigger pull. Sometimes it makes a difference on which side you take off of the peg.

[SHOOTALL]

I have done it for many years . I shot a 44 mag SBH in IMHSA and had a trigger job but would still leave one leg off for an even lighter trigger sometimes. You can also ben tboth legs a little to help also.

[inthebeech]

If you are fairly handy, you might polish the surface that the bend of the spring rides on in the back of the trigger.  If you use a dremmel, it is unimportant but if you polish by hand with emery, go WITH the direction that the spring travels.  If you've fired the gun a bit, you will see the rub marks where yu should concentrate your efforts. This should get you to a very slick, safe, robust set up.  If you are still not there, take a needle nose pliers and bend BOTH legs equally, in very small increments, to relieve the torsional load applied.  I've always perferred one or both of these methods in combination.
Ed

[irold]

All good advice and thoughts.  Thanks
 
Today I took my single-six and my SBH-Hunter out of the safe and commenced taking the spring off one side .  It really did work ...I don't have a trigger guage but just guessing ...they're a little stiffer than my Redhawk , and it has a 3# trigger ....seems good to me. And thats what counts !   Thanks aagain
 
regards , irold

[jcn59]

I've disconnected one side of the trigger return spring on at least six new model Blackhawks with excellent results.  If you look up "Poor man's trigger job" you will find out how to fix a "gritty" trigger without tools.  Here, you must use some discression.  Too little is better than too much.  You can always repeat the routine.  I have done this to all my Blackhawks with vastly improved results.   It certainly beats paying high shipping costs plus fees to an unknown so-called gunsmith who may just make the problem worse, at your expense!