Sexual assault victim may go to jail for naming the guilty punks.

[powderman]

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  17-year-old sexual assault victim could face charges for tweeting names of attackers     By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News
Senior Media ReporterDietrich (Twitter)     A Kentucky girl who was sexually assaulted could face contempt of court charges after she tweeted the names of her juvenile attackers.
Savannah Dietrich, the 17-year-old victim, was frustrated by a plea deal reached late last month by the two boys who assaulted her, and took to Twitter to expose them--violating a court order to keep their names confidential.
"There you go, lock me up," Dietrich tweeted after naming the perpetrators. "I'm not protecting anyone that made my life a living Hell." Her Twitter account has since been closed.
Attorneys for the attackers asked a Jefferson District Court judge to hold Dietrich in contempt for lashing out on Twitter. She could face up to 180 days in jail and a $500 fine if convicted. The boys have yet to be sentenced for the August 2011 attack.
"So many of my rights have been taken away by these boys," Dietrich told Louisville's Courier-Journal. "I'm at the point, that if I have to go to jail for my rights, I will do it. If they really feel it's necessary to throw me in jail for talking about what happened to me as opposed to throwing these boys in jail for what they did to me, then I don't understand justice."
Dietrich was assaulted by the pair after passing out at a party. They later shared photos of the assault with friends.
"For months, I cried myself to sleep," Dietrich said. "I couldn't go out in public places."
On June 26, the boys pleaded guilty to first-degree sexual abuse and misdemeanor voyeurism. Terms of their plea agreement were not released.
"They got off very easy," Dietrich, who says she was unaware of the plea agreement before it was announced in court, said in her interview with the newspaper.
"They said I can't talk about it or I'll be locked up," Dietrich tweeted after hearing, according to the paper. "So I'm waiting for them to read this and lock me up."
"[Protecting rapists] is more important than getting justice for the victim in Louisville," she added.
A hearing for the contempt of court charge is scheduled for July 30. Attorneys for Dietrich want it open to the media, while the boys lawyers want it closed.
Both the Gannett-owned Courier-Journal and Dietrich's attorneys "have filed motions to open the proceedings, arguing she has a First Amendment right to speak about what happened in her case," the newspaper said.
An online petition asking the judge to throw out the charges against Dietrich, launched Saturday, has already accumulated hundreds of signatures.
"[She] should not be legally barred from talking about what happened to her," Gregg Leslie, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, told the Associated Press. "That's a wide-ranging restraint on speech."

[Brett]

If anything is learned from this case I hope that it is that young girls will think carefully about partying and what kind of "friends" they associate with.

I'm in no way condoning what the boys did to this girl but if this underage girl had not drunk or stoned out of her head there would probably be nothing to report.   Also where were her "friends" while this was happening.  I always thought friends watched each other's backs, at least that was the way I grew up. 

[powderman]

If anything is learned from this case I hope that it is that young girls will think carefully about partying and what kind of "friends" they associate with.

I'm in no way condoning what the boys did to this girl but if this underage girl had not drunk or stoned out of her head there would probably be nothing to report.   Also where were her "friends" while this was happening.  I always thought friends watched each other's backs, at least that was the way I grew up.

 
BRETT. Right, she shouldn't have been there, but I think the punks names and what they did should be made VERY public. POWDERMAN. 

[JustaShooter]

The contempt charges against her have been dropped:  http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120723/NEWS01/307230081/Contempt-motion-for-sexual-assault-victim-Savannah-Dietrich-who-tweeted-attackers-names-withdrawn?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1

Just a Shooter

[Brett]

BRETT. Right, she shouldn't have been there, but I think the punks names and what they did should be made VERY public. POWDERMAN. 

Oh I absolutely agree POWDERMAN.   I think that their names and faces should be plastered all over the front page of the local paper so that everyone can see what kind of "real men" these punk @$$ little $#!()s really are.

[powderman]

JUSTASHOOTER. Thanks, good news. POWDERMAN. 

[Hooker]

Why did they let them plea bargain when the evidence would have convicted the little scumbags?
The punks should be sent to big boy prison where they could be properly educated on unwanted attention.

Pat

[powderman]

Why did they let them plea bargain when the evidence would have convicted the little scumbags?
The punks should be sent to big boy prison where they could be properly educated on unwanted attention.

Pat

 
HOOKER. Agreed. Crime is rampant partly because punishment is often not severe enough. These punks are probably feeling pretty smug. HEH, we had our fun, got away with it. I bet she'll remember us for a long time. POWDERMAN. 

[gypsyman]

Sounds to me like a little street justice is in order here. gypsyman

[BBF]

Western Culture!

[m-g Willy]

If anything is learned from this case I hope that it is that young girls will think carefully about partying and what kind of "friends" they associate with.

I'm in no way condoning what the boys did to this girl but if this underage girl had not drunk or stoned out of her head there would probably be nothing to report.   Also where were her "friends" while this was happening.  I always thought friends watched each other's backs, at least that was the way I grew up.

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That sounds a lot like saying"It was his own fault that he was mugged. He should have known better than to walk through that neighborhood at night"
Or "She shouldn't have been dressed like that if she didn't want raped"
Come on ,,just because the neighbor stumbles home drunk and passes out in the street infront of my house doesn't give me the right to go out and take his wallet!
These punks seen an opportunity to sexually assault this girl,, and 100% of the guilt is on them!
 

[SHOOTALL]

If you place yourself in danger you do share in the responsiblity of what happens to you. To dress provocative and flirt can be taken wrong by some numb shulls and people know it . So if you tease a snake and get bit shame on you !

[Cuts Crooked]

So if you tease a snake and get bit shame on you !

Uh huh......human beings aren't snakes. Admittedly some act like snakes, that's supposedly why we have laws.

[m-g Willy]

If you place yourself in danger you do share in the responsiblity of what happens to you. To dress provocative and flirt can be taken wrong by some numb shulls and people know it . So if you tease a snake and get bit shame on you !

So if you are driving home from vacation at 3am on a friday and get hit head on by a drunk driver ,,you should have known better than to be out on a friday night?
Come on!
Stop blaming the victim.

[Brett]

If anything is learned from this case I hope that it is that young girls will think carefully about partying and what kind of "friends" they associate with.

I'm in no way condoning what the boys did to this girl but if this underage girl had not drunk or stoned out of her head there would probably be nothing to report.   Also where were her "friends" while this was happening.  I always thought friends watched each other's backs, at least that was the way I grew up.

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That sounds a lot like saying"It was his own fault that he was mugged. He should have known better than to walk through that neighborhood at night"
Or "She shouldn't have been dressed like that if she didn't want raped"
Come on ,,just because the neighbor stumbles home drunk and passes out in the street infront of my house doesn't give me the right to go out and take his wallet!
These punks seen an opportunity to sexually assault this girl,, and 100% of the guilt is on them!

Again I never said that the punks had the right or should be excused in any way for their behavior. What I am saying is if you tease a dog don't be surprised when it bites you.   If you get sloppy drunk there is a good chance something bad will happen to you.  If you walk alone at night in a bad neighborhood there is a good chance something bad will happen to you.  If a woman dresses like a whore and flirts with every guy at the bar there is a good chance she will get some unwanted attention.  I'm not saying that the victims in any of the above scenarios deserves what they got but I am saying that their actions directly contributed to their plight.  Use some common sence.  Why ask for trouble? 

Simple fact: If this underaged girl had not been at this party and passed out drunk or stoned the punks would not have had the opportunity to assault her.   

[m-g Willy]

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Simple fact: If this underaged girl had not been at this party and passed out drunk or stoned the punks would not have had the opportunity to assault her.

Simple fact: If those who were killed by that insane shooter in the movie theater would have stayed home they wouldn't have been killed.
So much for " IF" eh?

[Brett]

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Simple fact: If this underaged girl had not been at this party and passed out drunk or stoned the punks would not have had the opportunity to assault her.

Simple fact: If those who were killed by that insane shooter in the movie theater would have stayed home they wouldn't have been killed.
So much for " IF" eh?

So I guess you condone underage drinking/drugs, etc.  Let the kids do what feels good to them and let the chips fall where they may, right?    Then you can blame Budweiser for your teens unwanted pregnancy.   Let's not take any personal responsibility at all. 

[SHOOTALL]

If you place yourself in danger you do share in the responsiblity of what happens to you. To dress provocative and flirt can be taken wrong by some numb shulls and people know it . So if you tease a snake and get bit shame on you !

So if you are driving home from vacation at 3am on a friday and get hit head on by a drunk driver ,,you should have known better than to be out on a friday night?
Come on!
Stop blaming the victim.

no not at all but if you are out on the interstate in traffic and on your way home at 3am tail gating , speeding and being an aggresive driver and get involved in an accident shame on you ! By the same token if a woman dresses provocative , goes into a biker bar and moves and flirts like a hooker begging for attention she shares in the responsiblity of her fate .
We can cry law all we want but we need to be responsible also. Keep in mind police respond to calls if you don't want to be a victom then be responsible !

[SHOOTALL]

I would add I seldom travel at night on the hollidays where drinking is assured or on most fri or sat nights. BTW my son was hit by a drunk on superbowl sunday !

[Dixie Dude]

In Alabama, in a murder or rape, you can be tried as an adult if you are over 16 I think.  The boys were 17, barely juvenile.  I say if they can drive and are over 16, it should be put in public what they did.  I agree the girl put herself in that position, but the boys are plainly guilty and should be locked up in juvenile detention until they are 18, then have to register as sexual offenders as adults for at least 5 years. 

[SHOOTALL]

Or just tried as adults in the first place .

[powderman]

In Alabama, in a murder or rape, you can be tried as an adult if you are over 16 I think.  The boys were 17, barely juvenile.  I say if they can drive and are over 16, it should be put in public what they did.  I agree the girl put herself in that position, but the boys are plainly guilty and should be locked up in juvenile detention until they are 18, then have to register as sexual offenders as adults for at least 5 years.

 
DIXIE DUDE. Good post Sir.
SHOOTALL. That would work for me too. POWDERMAN. 

[m-g Willy]

I would add I seldom travel at night on the hollidays where drinking is assured or on most fri or sat nights. BTW my son was hit by a drunk on superbowl sunday !

I hope he is ok.
But do you think "he should have known better than to be out on the road on that day?"
So some of the blame should be placed on him for making a bad choice to be on the road .

[m-g Willy]

So I guess you condone underage drinking/drugs, etc.  Let the kids do what feels good to them and let the chips fall where they may, right?    Then you can blame Budweiser for your teens unwanted pregnancy.   Let's not take any personal responsibility at all. 

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Not at all!
I just think that if you screw up and do something stupid(get drunk and pass out at a party) that it doesn't give anyone the right to molest you.
You might come back and say those who asualted her was guilty ,,but when you say some of the blame is on her you show you think it isn't as bad as all that.
And for as how she was dressed or how she was acting.What's that matter?
How do you think the teenage boys were acting?
What if it were your daughter?
 
 
 

[SHOOTALL]

I would add I seldom travel at night on the hollidays where drinking is assured or on most fri or sat nights. BTW my son was hit by a drunk on superbowl sunday !

I hope he is ok.
But do you think "he should have known better than to be out on the road on that day?"
So some of the blame should be placed on him for making a bad choice to be on the road .

He is and I admit I told him it was a bad night to be out . BTW I don't think those boys should not get the book thrown at them. My point is not blame but reality . Lets look at ccw the best defense is avoid bad situations the weapon is for when you could not or screwed up and got caught in a bad place.

[SHOOTALL]

Don't confuse blame with responsiblity

[m-g Willy]

 
He is and I admit I told him it was a bad night to be out . BTW I don't think those boys should not get the book thrown at them. My point is not blame but reality . Lets look at ccw the best defense is avoid bad situations the weapon is for when you could not or screwed up and got caught in a bad place.

I see what you are talking about.
I'm just saying that it doesn't matter what someone else does ,, it doesn't give anyone the right to assualt, molest, rob or do anything else to them just because they made a bad choice.
I raised 6 lil angels.
But! I know how teens are.
(I hear about things NOW,that  they did in their teenage years, that if I knew about back then,, I would have been banging heads !!)
Just saying.
 
 
 

[Dixie Dude]

We had a safety meeting one time at work.  Most traffic fatalities are between 11pm and 4am on Friday and Saturday nights.  50% of them are caused by teens under 21.  Of course drinking and driving.