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Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« on: June 23, 2012, 07:42:35 AM »
Do you guys think this cartridge is still alive and not fading into history?

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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2012, 08:35:08 AM »
Alive & well in My stable.

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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2012, 09:07:46 AM »
My 673 Guide Gun in .350 Rem Mag is alive and well.  I did stock up on several hundred cases just in case (pun intended)! 
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2012, 09:23:39 AM »
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2012, 09:42:05 PM »
The best way to find out is to walk in your favorite store where you would purchase ammo from. Do they keep it in stock? If not where can you find it? Or would you have to mail order it? Cost?

 But if you do re load none of the above Matters lol. If you like the Cartridge None of the Above Matters.

 In the End what matters is what YOU Want and what you are willing to accept to use the cartridge.


 Have you seen just how well a .358 works on Game? Trust me I feel the .358 line of cartridges are a secret. Sure you may not find one New in say . 358 Winchester,35 Whelen,350 Rem mag. But try and find someone willing to part with one lol.

 Thus far  I had a 35 Whelen built and getting ready to start load work on a .358 Winchester I had built. I did not pick the .350 Rem Mag due to Brass and the short neck. The 358 Winchester can be made easy from .308 Win Brass and the 35 Whelen from 30-06 Brass so I will not have to worry about finding suitable brass.

 Another Caliber that I feel is worth mentioning is the 338-08 or what is now called the 338 Federal which can also be made from 308 Win Brass.

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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 12:44:00 AM »
Anymore it seems as if someone wants a short action 35 cal. magnum they go with the 35 WSM. More power and brass is easier to get. But there's no flies on the 350 in my book! 
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 01:12:17 PM »
I've never owned a 35 caliber rifle and in my state (NC) there is not a need or large following for something this large.  Just a thought - if a 35 caliber is needed to cleanly kill an animal in the lower states, a magnum version might be well advised for energy and/or long range.  Elk and large bear come to mind. If I ran through swamps chasing hounds to a bear up a tree, a carbine in 35 cal would be nice.
 
I know there are a lot of 35 fans who use them for whitetails in New England.  They will surely have a different point of view.

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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 01:25:24 PM »
Do you guys think this cartridge is still alive and not fading into history?

Good cartridge but I think the 350 RM is near dead as a factory round.  However, as one above pointed out - It won't matter to you if you'll reload for it.  At least get a set of dies and some new cases while they as still available.
 
PS: Also save the brass you already have after firings.
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 05:44:20 AM »
And if you dont reload, I know this guy....HECK of a nice guy too.  ;)  that has plenty but "needs" more 350 RM brass for his 350JR wildcat. lol I can form from literally any belted mag but the 350 RM brass dont need turning.
 
DONT DIE YET 350 MAG!! LONG LIVE THE 350 MAGGIE!!!  ;D
 
Not posting much on it yet. Dang reamer still not here but with a case capacity of unfired new, shortened 350 mag brass, of 58.7 grains of h2o, I may be able to push 60 grains as a total on fired, neck sized.
 
Even if not much is gained in fireformed brass, I have a usable capacity of just under 51 grains to bottom of the neck.
Kinda re-invented the 358 Win (purposely) but in a round of legal length for here in Indiana (dont ask, lol)
 
Old news to a few and more on it later but here is hoping the 350 RM sticks around a bit longer.
 
**Just seconds ago I got an email from my 'smith. Reamer is being sent out Oct 5, TOMORROW!  (Where is the happy dance icon? lol)**
 
I have a set of twins (other than one has awesome wood) in Remington 700 Classics in 350 Rem Mag.
 
One it getting turned into this.........., the "350 JR".
 

 

 

 

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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 03:41:10 PM »
     My model 7, 350 is not going anywhere. Nosler just made a new bullet weight for it that I'm going to give a try this year., 200 gr nosler acubond is now shown as one of the new bullets for 2012. Been waiting for a big bullet company to put out a better 200 gr bullet  than what is currently out .so I'm going to give this one a whirl has a BC of 365. Been shooting 225 seira's the last two years they shoot nice but allways looking for something better. Nosler sight lists them but you can't order them yet. 
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2012, 03:48:37 PM »
The nosler 200 grain accubond is around. I sent u a link to some (or at least SAYS they are in stock) but some bullet tests have shown up online so guys have been getting them.
 
Just FYI.......shoot straight!
 
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2012, 11:09:25 AM »
Obviously still plenty of 350's out there.
Maybe just need to come out from the back of the safe.


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Great to run projects that don't need deep pockets, keeps the interest alive and helps resolve an Indiana specific problem.


Could you tell me what a belted magnum might bring as an advantage, ( or maybe also has it's downside) in a shorter, bottle necked, bolt actioned round ?


Are you head spacing on the belt or the shoulder ?


Never quite understood the concept myself.


Thanks,
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2012, 12:05:58 AM »
This is a result of my wanting to use a wildcat of my own design, within my budget for deer hunting here in Indiana, that has some "off beat" regulations.
 
This is only the 5th year we can use ANY centerfire round in a rifle, so not complaining.
 
What a belted mag (per se) brought to the table, was I could set back and rechamber an already 358 bore rifle (.357 is minimum rifle bore legal for deer), have the capacity and performance of a "hot" 358 Winchester since the parent round had plenty, no custom dies are needed, just shorten a trim die to form, and reloading dies trimmed give me functioning loading tools.   No custom barrel, no custom dies .......brass is best from the 350 RM so far but I CAN form the 350JR from literally any belted mag round with the same headcase size. 
 
There is a round out there called a 358 Hoosier that is the result of the exact same process (set back the shoulder and trim) starting with a 358 Win.  This is just my version starting with the 350 Rem Mag.
 
Ive formed from 375 H&H, 338 Win, 7mm mag but all those need turned with a bit too thick of neck wall when trimmed.   Not that big of a deal but the 350 RM brass is good to go without turning with about a minutes worth of work.  Run through the trim die, cut with a fine hack saw, file flat, remove and finish trim in the preset trimmer or one can FL resize first if so desired, or after.   The smith is trimming and double checking a neck sizing die too and may hone a bit here and there comparing fired brass to ones ran though it.
 
I do think a set of 65 dollar custom Lee collet dies may be worth the money down the road too but deer season is coming.  These will be fine.
 
The WSSM verson will hold a bit more powder, but most are completing a double neck expansion to get them out to 358. Keeping the standard neck length and already a 358 bore, that was just another thing I didnt have to mess with. Also I wanted my round in a Remington 700 and even if I wanted a 358 Winchester in one, Id have to custom chamber or barrel one since Big Green never chambered a 700 for that round.
 
The 700 Classic in 350 Rem mag or the model 7 chambered in the 350 Remingtonmag involve a simple setback and rechamber for the 350JR. It was a pleasant but expected discovery that I could seat a 225 grain Nosler Ballistic tip (or accubond) and match the 350 Rem mag OAL.   This fact gives me the option to use ALL of the usable case capacity below the neck and am having the smith double check with a sent dummy round that it will have the needed throat length to do so. Loaded so, they load in my 350 RM magazine and work through the action and out like it was made for it.
 
This will match a 358 winchester in performance, if not a tad more......and the Good Lord knows that the 358 Win has whacked and stacked many a critter and more than ample for my use here in Indiana......and even if I go visit Sis in Montana.
 
The extra work and cost of the better known wildcats in use here just didnt appear to be worth the hassle when I looked at it from my wallet and ambition viewpoint,  SO........... I came up with my own.

Marching to the beat of a different drummer is all   ;)   and it has all fallen together as good if not a bit better than expected.  Only working loads remains from my end but with a known case capacity, its not going to be much of a task. Working up from 358 Win loads to a point of slight pressure indicators will give  me the big picture. 
 
Not saying its "better" than anyone's nor is it meant to be.   It's simply the results of my own thought processes and meant to fit my own hunting "needs"..or whatever one wishes to call it. lol.
 
As for headspacing, Ive found the belted mags work just dandy headspacing off the shoulder and just pretending the belt isnt there. Some "dislike" the belted mags.....most Ive spoke with about it.....never had one.  To each there own.  Each chooses his or her own rounds.  Its just that a belted mag round , in a remington 700, gave me the prerequisits I was looking for to create the round I wanted.
 
ITS BEEN A HOOT......let me tell ya.   I can hardly wait for it to get here.
God Bless
STeve

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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2012, 03:29:57 AM »
A hint - you likely could use a off the shelf Lee collet die for the 35 Rem, and trim it shorter. Those Lee dies are big enough that the body doesn't touch so they can be modded on length either by trimming for shorter cases or using a washer around the case if it is too long.

I neck size my 358 win. in the 35 rem die with no troubles. Also use the same die for the 35x30-30.

Also, 357 mag carbide dies are useful for neck sizing 35 cal. rifle rounds.   
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2012, 04:23:47 AM »
One thing that will probably keep the350 mag brass in production is it is a somewhat popular case for wildcat cartridges like the faily new 9.3BS. That's what helped keep the 284 Win brass in production on a limited basis.
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2012, 03:31:20 PM »
     For those of you interested here is a nosler web sight that has some good tests for the 35 caliber bullets as well as other calibers just some good reading.   www.noslerreloading.com/phpBB2/   click on the bullet tests and the caliber. 
     
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2012, 02:21:47 AM »
woods, great info. Thanks for posting the link.
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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2012, 02:44:21 PM »
 "Is the 350rem mag still alive?"
I just checked and mine is doing just fine (Remington 700 Classic).

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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2012, 10:41:02 AM »
There are still 3 companies that mfg rifles in the 350 Rem Mag.

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Re: Is the 350rem mag still alive?
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2012, 01:37:28 PM »
225 Sierra @ 2730 with 1 big hole with 5@ 100 YDS.. The animal will be very dead.