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Tried some Winchester PDX 1 .....
« on: April 08, 2013, 09:24:42 AM »
After reading many of the differing (sometimes VERY) opinions on the Winchester PDX 1 round, I decided to try some for myself. I picked up a box of the 3" .410 at Gander Mountain, which pretty much killed a $20.00 bill. We filled up some jugs with water, as well as rounding up some cardboard boxes for patterning. The results of hitting the jugs at 5, 10, and 15 yards were noticeably more dramatic than the Federal self defense buckshot I have tried in the past. The pattern at 20 yards produced a pie-plate group of the four discs and BB's scattered everywhere. At close range (15-20 feet) the pattern closely resembled the results below from full-choked shotguns. The shells loaded and ejected with no issues from my NEF Pardner .410, with the empties landing several feet behind me. The BB"s I'm a little skeptical about, but the discs pack quite a whallop. I'll keep some on hand, just because... 8) ...Scott B.
 
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Some info: here's a link http://410handguns.com/410_winchester_ammunition.html
 
  .45 Colt/.410 Handguns                       (Click to See Targets)[/t][/t]
  Firearm/Barrel Length[/t]  4 Defense Discs  16 BB Shot Pellets  Target  4 Defense Discs  16 BB Shot Pellets  Target
  Bond Snake Slayer   
3½" Barrel[/t]  1½"
Group  3 of 16 Pellets  6 ft  3"
Group  7 of 16
Pellets  10 ft
  Bond Snake Slayer IV 4¼" Barrel[/t]  2"
Group  4½"
Group  6 ft  3"
Group  14 of 16
Pellets  10 ft
  Magnum Research BFR
5 ½" Barrel[/t]  1¼"
Group  9"
Group  10 ft  2"
Group  12 of 16
Pellets  15 ft
  Magnum Research BFR
7½" Barrel, No Choke[/t]  2½"
Group  12 of 16 Pellets  15 ft  2¾"
Group  11 of 16
Pellets  20 ft
  Rossi Matched Pair
11” w/ Full Choke[/t]  1¼"
Group  3¼"
Group  15 ft  2½"
Group  6¼"
Group  20 ft
  Taurus Judge
3" Chamber, 3" Barrel[/t]  1"
Group  7½"
Group  6 ft  2"
Group  14 of 16
Pellets  10 ft
  Taurus Raging Judge
3” Chamber, 6" Barrel[/t]  1"
Group  8"
Group  6 ft  2"
Group  13 of 16
Pellets  10 ft
  .410 Shotguns                                       (Click to See Targets)[/t]
  Firearm/Barrel Length[/t]  4 Defense Discs  16 BB Shot Pellets  Target  4 Defense Discs  16 BB Shot Pellets  Target
  Mossberg Cruiser
18 ½" Cylinder Bore[/t]  2¼" Group  3"
Group  15 ft  2½" Group  8½"
Group  20 ft
  Mossberg HS410
18 ½" Spreader Choke[/t]  2"
Group  4"
Group  15 ft  3"
Group  7"
Group  20 ft
  **The spreader choke causes the BB pellets to cluster to one side of the defense discs. See targets.[/t]
  Rossi Circuit Judge 18.5” w/ Full Choke [/t]  1"
Group  2¾"
Group  15 ft  2"
Group  4½"
Group  20 ft
  Rossi Circuit Judge 18.5” w/ Cylinder Bore [/t]  1"
Group  10"
Group  15 ft  1½" Group  12"
Group  20 ft
  Stoeger Coach Gun
20" Full Choke[/t]  ¾"
Group  5"
Group  15 ft  1"
Group  5"
Group  20
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Re: Tried some Winchester PDX 1 .....
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 03:54:32 PM »
Thanks for the update on the PDX1's in a shotgun.  I use those in my 3" chamber and 3" barrelled Judge, along with the PDX1 45s.  They are great and I have always wondered what they would do in a Pardner variation.  May have to complement my collection with a 410 now.
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