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  Texas judge warns of possible ‘civil war’ if President Obama is re-elected  By Jason Sickles, Yahoo! | The Lookout – 20 hrs ago     What is it about election years?
As if the negative political ads aren't enough, now a county judge in Lubbock, Texas, predicts possible "civil war" if President Obama is re-elected.
Judge Tom Head was on a local TV news show making his case for a tax increase, when he said hiring extra sheriff's deputies would especially be needed if Obama wins in November.
From Lubbock's Fox 34 News:
 
 
"He's going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the U.N., and what is going to happen when that happens?," Head asked.
"I'm thinking the worst. Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe. And we're not just talking a few riots here and demonstrations, we're talking Lexington, Concord, take up arms and get rid of the guy.
"Now what's going to happen if we do that, if the public decides to do that? He's going to send in U.N. troops. I don't want 'em in Lubbock County. OK. So I'm going to stand in front of their armored personnel carrier and say 'you're not coming in here'.
"And the sheriff, I've already asked him, I said 'you gonna back me' he said, 'yeah, I'll back you'. Well, I don't want a bunch of rookies back there. I want trained, equipped, seasoned veteran officers to back me."
Sheriff Kelly Rowe told a Lubbock newspaper reporter he has never discussed any of the scenarios with the judge.
On Wednesday, Judge Head explained his remarks in a video interview with the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal. He said his original comments were taken out of context. But as the county's emergency management director, he said he has to keep a "worst case scenario" in mind if Obama returns to the White House and Democrats control the Senate.
"I have some opinions what they're doing and what they're trying to do if they stay in power," he said. "And I have to prepare for that."


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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 11:34:54 AM »
Actually I also believe that if he gets another term war will break out here in the US. I'm not sure I'd call what is coming a civil war, maybe more of a revolution or it might be the government that initiates it against citizens.

I don't feel we are all that far from that latter situation and that if he is reelected it will almost certainly come to pass before his second term ends. When they begin to take guns from citizens a lot of folks are gonna die on both sides.

It will then be gut check time for all cops local, state and federal. It will also be gut check time for our current and former military members.

My prediction is that almost to a man/woman the federal LEOs will stand against US Citizens as will the majority of local law enforcement officers. In some states the state cops will as well cuz the state will support the feds but in some I think the states will buck the feds and most state LEOs and hopefully a lot of local LEOs in those states will stand with citizens.

I wish I had a better feel for the military. I think most average enlistees will go against citizens and shoot them the same as they've been taught to do by all the wars we've half fought in the recent past.

There will be a hard core group of our current and I believe the majority of vetrans that will stand with the citizens and fight what is to come. Ya need to remember that gun owners in America constitute the largest standing army in the world. Not nearly as well armed as our government shear numbers are on gun owners side and as our government begins to do to us what Syria is now doing to their citizens a whole lot more citizens are gonna join the battle.

I've been saying this for at least ten years now and while it hasn't come to pass yet and hopefully never will I do not believe the country can stand another four years of the dumocraps without it happening. If Romney goes it then things should quieten down for the first four years he's there but then whether he is reelected or another dumocrap is I think we'll wind up right back where we will be if obama wins.

All that elected Romney is likely to do is push off the shooting war here at home a few more years. Sooner or later it's coming tho and I'm quite confident it will begin with the US government doing to US Citizens exactly what Syrian leaders are doing to their people. When that happens I believe US Citizens will react as the Syrians are and fight for all they are worth. It will make the dead toll in the War of Northern Aggression as well as both world wars pale in comparison. I would NOT put it past our government to resort to nukes on US soil in areas of strongest resistance.


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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 11:56:05 AM »
I hate to say this, because it sounds like I might favor Obama, which I definitley do not.  I agree it's going to be horrible in the U.S. if he gets back in--no way to predict just how bad it might get.  BUT, we ought not forget that if he gets re-elected, that means the concept of free elections is working.  For him to get back in means most people want him back in.  Us rational people will be in the minority, again. 
Another point is that God's plan is still on schedule and still working.  If Obama gets another 4 years and the nation crashes, that''s just how it is.  We just happen to be living in a time the master plan takes that turn. 
Graybeard said it:  The Feds will side with the politicians in power at the time. 
 

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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 02:29:06 PM »
Time to finish Sherman's job.

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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 04:42:53 PM »
GB. I hate to even think it but I fear that you are right, I've thought it myself.  They have a training facility at FT Knox for just what you are talking about. The younger mil members have been schooled by liberal school systems and will follow orders. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 02:46:05 AM »
My son is in the Alabama national guard.  He said most do not like Obama.  He has cut some of their benefits, and is wanting them to cut back on their numbers.  Also, the military is downsizing, which they don't like.  He is EXPANDING the role of Homeland Security, IRS armed agents, and other federal agencies.  He has more control over the other agencies than he does the military.  My son said he personally would not take away citizens guns nor fire on American citizens.  He has worked security after the Alabama tornados last year.  He said he didn't see any looters, just gawkers.  Of course, we have had Republican governors which called them out as soon as it happened, unlike the Democratic governor in Louisana, who didn't call out the guard until way past the time of problems and expected the feds to immediately come in and help.   
 
I think if Obama is not re-elected, there will be riots in inner cities and other places.  However, I think Romney can put on brakes and give us more time before the feds are bankrupt.  We are $15-16 trillion in debt.  The American economy is only about $16 trillion a year.  When the feds get to $20 trillion, there will only be enough received in taxes to pay the INTEREST on the debt.  At that point, if China or anyone cashes in their T-bills or bonds, the government can't pay them.  I think Romney sees this as well as Ryan, and they both know cuts have to me made to sustain the government and the economy.  Obama knows this also, but he will use it to take over the utilities, factories, mines, etc, so their ownership of wealth can be used to pay our debtors like China.  This would create his communist/socialist state.  There is already talk of taking over all pensions, 401-k's and IRAs, to use to fund expanded social security.  25 million Americans have a 401-k.  Many more have pensions. Some have IRA's.  However, most do not.  The feds already have majority ownership of GM and Chrysler, also AGI, and one of the big underwater banks.  They have about 75% of the mortgages.  They have taken over student loans.  The feds have gotten way too big, cumbersome, and inefficient.  The Soviet Union fell because their government was way to big, owned practically everything, and fell under it's own weight. 
 
Several senarios, most are bad.
 
1) Hyperinflation so government pays back debt with inflated dollars like the Weimar Republic of Germany after WWI.  People may riot, steal, etc, to feed themselves.
2) Government takes over raw materials, utilities, and most large manufacturing to use profits to pay debt.  We become serfs to the government with limited freedom and mobility.
3) Govenment makes drastic cuts because they can't pay bills.  Welfare, food stamps, Social Security, the millitary, all will take drastic cuts.  People will riot.
4) Government raises taxes and has more controls through EPA, etc, thus causing the economy to crash with a greater depression than the old one.  Billionares and Millionares will leave the country, more factories will leave, people have less money to spend because of high taxes.
5) A combination of the above in some form or fashion.
6) A good president, legislature, and good supreme court justices to balance the budget, cut through red tape, limit controls and regulations, cut unnecessary government programs, give more control to states, make good environment for manufacturing to return, thus returning to a vibrant robust economy that can cover necessary programs.  I think Tea Party Republicans see this, as well as Libertarians, and know something must be done.  Obamas way will lead to socialism/communism/facism in one form or another. 
 
As you can see 5 out of 6 are bad.  Romney will try to do part of no. 6, but probably won't go far enough, thus the brakes, but still the clift ahead.  Obama will have one of the first 5 in place before his second term is up. 
 
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 03:32:26 AM »
Time to finish Sherman's job.
Extremely low leftist scum comment. You mean use artillery to shell citizens? I think this will be much harder to do at present.
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 04:35:28 AM »
Time to finish Sherman's job.
Extremely low leftist scum comment. You mean use artillery to shell citizens? I think this will be much harder to do at present.
Sounds more yankee than leftist...
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 04:44:01 AM »


My prediction is that almost to a man/woman the federal LEOs will stand against US Citizens as will the majority of local law enforcement officers.


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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 05:23:56 AM »
The areas where population density is high enough for Federal units  to benefit from useing nukes are areas that support Obama. Anywhere that conservative forces gather to large numbers it still won't take a nuke to devastate them, Just won't be that many gathering with the Federals controlling the highways and roads..
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In the begenning the citizens will make the greatest gains by useing guerilla tactics. Disrupt Federal communications (Cell towers and satelite setups, get a CB and a shortwave set.) and supply links, (bridges and roads). Individuals and small groups can do this.
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The large cities, which are largely liberal and the O's support, can be used as a weapon against the Federal powers. Guerilla tactics against thier water supplies, food supplies, power supplies and sanitation will force the feds to concentrate energies there, if they don't they will lose thier voteing base support at an extreme rate.
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After guerilla tactics become widespread enough to show effectiveness small numbers of patriouts can begin "bunch up" to feel out ventures to build support and momentum.
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I really don't know anything except no military force on earth can stand against the US military in a front line battle scenario when they intend to win at any cost. Guerilla warefare tactics are what Vietnam, Afganistan, Korea and most other small countries where the citizens were fighting for thier homes and self governance have used to achieve success against  greater forces. ear
 
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 07:00:49 AM »
With us decreasing the number of nuke warheads with the agreements with Russia, etc, China has a population large enough to take the US.  They have 1.4 billion people, over 4 times our manpower.  They can put 200 million troops on the ground right now.  With the large ships and containers, they can modify to handle soldiers, they can cross the ocean IF they use some selected nukes to knock out our aircraft carriers, and maybe 3 nukes in space above the US to knock out the power grid.  We only have maybe 50 million men and women with weapons and that live in the small towns and countryside to keep out a 200 million man army. 
 
If O is not reelected, there may be some riots, but overall people will continue on and maybe Romney can get something fixed.  If he is reelected, then we are headed to some type of catastrophy the way he is spending, and the senate not passing any kind of budget or plan to decrease the debt. 

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 07:34:26 AM »
Bring China into?  They need us to consume thier products. If we buy from them they buy from us and the world, food and raw materials. They would want our land to use so they probably won't nuke. Just killing the population they would probably be ok with.
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2012, 07:55:48 AM »
I would put my money on the U.S. military to side with the people against Obama and his communist administration.  If we are really considering likely scenarios, expect race riots in big cities if (when) Obama is whipped.  I'm good with that, so let's get it on.
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2012, 09:13:57 AM »
IMO those riots/ civil war will be more likely to occur if Obama is not re-elected.
 
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 09:19:14 AM »
This subject came up when Sara Palin was Governor.  She said in the event of a government meltdown or take over, Alaska is in the perfect position to Secceed from the union.  We are geographically separated from the lower 48, and we have trade agreements with foreign countries and Alaska.  We do a lot of trade with Japan, Korea, China, and South American countries.   

I personally feel the military up here would also join the Alaska separatist as well.  In fact many of us want to do it now, why wait?  We have enough oil, coal, gas, timber, fish, wildlife, and sub surface minerals to make us self sufficient.  Canada, Japan, and Korea, would finance us to get started.

Ha, that might stop the people from Seattle and Oregon from coming up here and stealing our fish.  Also it would cut the Seattle suburb of Juneau off from Seattle and make them real Alaskans. 
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2012, 10:16:21 AM »
Is this         related to the mass shipment of ammunition to government offices         throughout the country? If true I hope we are all ready for what is         to come! Joe Angione is a former columnist for The Villages         Daily Sun. A good journalist is usually taught not to print         rumors or at least never to present them as the truth.          What I'm going to report here is only a rumor that         presently can't be confirmed. But it is of such magnitude that it must         be made known if only to prepare America for a possible terrible         eventuality. And while it has not been confirmed, neither can it         authoritatively and convincingly be denied, certainly not in a United         States where our Constitutional rights are under constant attack .          This rumor involves an agent of the Department of         Homeland Security who allegedly informed a reporter at the Canada Free         Press of a "false flag" or faked event to be initiated by Obama         administration operatives in the hope of preventing the November         presidential elections. Canada Free Press (CFP) is an independent,         conservative, electronic daily newspaper, updated several times a day.         It boasts more than 100 writers and columnists who file stories         regularly to the newspaper from all corners of the globe. According to         the newspaper's coverage of this DHS "whistleblower," the event would be         a staged assassination attempt on the life of President Obama that would         be blamed on "white supremacists" and subsequently used to enrage black         and Hispanic communities driving them to rioting all across the nation.          The faked assassination, says the CFP report, would         be carried out through the assistance of DHS agents, and "other         colluders" taking their orders from the White House. The objective would be to stir up enough racial         unrest to justify the imposition of martial law in major urban cities,         including erecting DHS checkpoints, restricting travel, and delaying         (possibly indefinitely) the November 2012 elections.         Doug Hagmann, reporting in the May 8, 2012 edition         of the Canada Free Press wrote that his informant works in "the         upper-echelon of DHS", which he described as "effectively under the         control of Barack Hussein Obama." Hagmann's contact said: "The DHS is actively         preparing for massive social unrest inside the United States. He then         corrected himself, stating that 'a civil war' is the more appropriate         term. Certain elements of the government are not only expecting and         preparing for it, they are actually facilitating it." The DHS whistleblower mentioned a recent meeting at         the Department of Homeland Security where plans were discussed to use         pawns to simulate the rioting seen in the Arab Spring countries that         would bring on a "controlled chaos" for the benefit of the Obama         administration. "Envisioned by these conspirators are riots         starting in urban areas such as New York, followed by a disruption of         business and commerce," the DHS source added. "They want to restrict         travel, if not through high energy prices, then by checkpoints and         curfews mandated by the rioting and unrest... The whole purpose is to         keep Obama in office for another term, no matter how unpopular he is, as         he is not finished changing our country from a Constitutional Republic."          This certainly isn't the first rumor to surface         about Mr. Obama's intention to subvert the U.S. Constitution, by         manipulating economic, racial and social issues that would polarize         Americans and bring on enormous conflict but the full measure of this         contrived event, if true, involves total suspension of our democratic         rights, and repression on a scale never thought possible in the America         we've known and cherished all our lives. It's a rumor that bears watching. and is worth         spreading because the more people who know about it--and understand the         high level of deceit and treachery that confronts us daily in         Washington--the less likely it is for the rumor to become a reality.          The lesson here is that if people are aware of the         possibility, even remote, of some great calamity befalling them, they're         on guard. they're prepared. their defenses are up, and those who would         commit evil, will back down fearing a confrontation they can't         win. The more         we talk about the potential for a staged, bogus presidential         assassination that would trigger massive civil unrest and possible         martial law, the stronger is our defense against it actually         occurring. The nation will be watching. Patriots everywhere will be on alert.         The Obama administration will be under scrutiny         more intense than ever before. 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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2012, 04:29:21 AM »
Ummmm, maybe boomerralph,,,,the TPTB is always planning contingencies and psychoticly trying to create reality, and thank God for 'white supremecist'...they come in handy, huh!!.. ;)
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But I doubt this will be necessary now that Mitt has been forced to bring on nutter Paul Ryan, who will be exposed shortly for his whacked out social-economic thinking.  EG....if all of Paul Ryan's economic reforms are enacted Mitt's tax rate is reduced to 0.82% effective.!!.. :o ....don't know if that is exactly true, but that ain't going to play well in Peoria...
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That, and they kick off the final leg of the Seven Wars Plan and attack Globalist resisting Iran...probably blaming them for some attack or something on US troops first, etc..
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Once again the GOP has us in a "they have to vote for us" position and they are carrying on business as usual, they will do what they have done all along. They are just hopeing that a lot more of the country will see them as a "lesser evil" than did in the past. ear
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2012, 07:21:07 AM »
Are the owners of Obama any different from Romney?
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2012, 06:33:25 AM »
Time to finish Sherman's job.
Extremely low leftist scum comment. You mean use artillery to shell citizens? I think this will be much harder to do at present.
Sounds more yankee than leftist...
Huge numbers of Yankee's are leftists.
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Re: Texas judge warns of possible civil war if obama is reelected.
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2012, 06:34:30 AM »
Are the owners of Obama any different from Romney?
I believe so. Romney has his own money and does not bow to Bloomberg or Soros. Unlike the scourge Obama who bows for any foreign dictator of communist/muslim ilk.
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