Rand Paul warns of possible obummer win caused by 3rd parties.

[BUGEYE]

Well! There you have it. He changed his mind (Romney) lol!
I think it's our duty to try and shed light on the truth. To try and open eye's that somehow need a little help in seeing it There are times however when trying to do so is (futile) A waste of breath,and time. I think this is one of those times.

you're right.  I have some examples of RPs liberal voting record in my sig line, but people keep their eyes closed to the truth.
Reagan changed his mind about some things, and Romney can't??
when I accepted Christ as my savior, I changed my mind about many things.  or did I flip-flop??

[blind ear]

NW_Hunter, they are just reacting to thier most immediate fear, they arn't looking for a solution. ear

[BUGEYE]

NW_Hunter, they are just reacting to thier most immediate fear, they arn't looking for a solution. ear

And your solution is someone as dishonest and liberal as the current president.
my sig line points out the truth.  but like NW said, people close their eyes to the truth.

[Cuts Crooked]

I think it depends on HOW MANY TIMES he's changed his mind  that defines him as a flip flopper

(actually it's what audience he's speaking too.......)

[nw_hunter]

I think it depends on HOW MANY TIMES he's changed his mind  that defines him as a flip flopper

(actually it's what audience he's speaking too.......)

I took my shoe's off to finish counting, and had to have my wife take her slippers off to come close to a count  By the way! Speaking of good third party choices Virgil Goode is a "good" man (pun intended) running on the Constitution party ticket.Virgil has looked at these criminals from both sides of the ticket before deciding he was through with the Elephant and the Donkey.Good Constitutional candidate, 100% second amendment, against abortion for any reason, and he will be on many state ballots.If he and Johnson both on the Oregon ballot, he would prob. get my vote. Either one would be a great choice over the other two.Any time we have Libertarian or Constitution party people running for state and local positions, they get my vote.

You folks who say you don't like the Republican choice, but must keep Obama from winning......Go ahead and vote for old Mitt, but put some good Constitutional minded folks in at local and state level.(Not party favorites)I bet every state has some running for State posititions and Reps to send to DC.

[Doublebass73]

what is the purpose of the constitution when a citizens rights are taken?  or the right of a company to make legal products.?

states all over this country are infringing on the rights supposedly guaranteed by THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
the congress should be able pass laws that enforce the constitution.
what about an unborn babys right to life. some of you will murder on demand.

Answering a question with a question and changing the subject is not going to change the fact that you don't have proof of the federal government's Constitutional power to regulate abortion.

We're still waiting for the proof. Your yourself said that it's NEVER OK to violate the Constitution. Show us where in the Constitution that it gives the power to the federal government to regulate abortion.

[powderman]

We're still waiting for the proof. Your yourself said that it's NEVER OK to violate the Constitution. Show us where in the Constitution that it gives the power to the federal government to regulate abortion.

 
dblbass. You are nitpicking needlessly. Show us where the constitution gives a woman the right to murder her baby if she doesn't want it. I asked before, I'm still waiting. None of this has anything to do with the OP. POWDERMAN. 

[Cuts Crooked]

We're still waiting for the proof. Your yourself said that it's NEVER OK to violate the Constitution. Show us where in the Constitution that it gives the power to the federal government to regulate abortion.

 
dblbass. You are nitpicking needlessly. Show us where the constitution gives a woman the right to murder her baby if she doesn't want it. I asked before, I'm still waiting. None of this has anything to do with the OP. POWDERMAN. 

PM, The constitution DOESN'T give a woman that right.........nor does it forbid it. That's not one of the powers the constitution permits the fed to have, one way or another. In other words, a right reserved to the states or the people. I don't have to like it, but it's the truth.

[Doublebass73]

Pman ^^^^What Cuts said^^^

Bugeye puts Ron Paul down in just about every thread with this thread being no exception. I challenged him on it and he can't back himself up on it. That isn't nitpicking.

I hate abortion just as much as you guys (one of the reasons I refuse to vote for Romney) but I also understand the federal government doesn't have the Constitutional power to regulate it. Ron Paul understands this also which is why he voted the way he did. It is super hypocritical to complain about Constitutional rights being taken away i.e. the 2nd Amendment while actively proposing that the government violate the Constitution in the case of abortion. According to the 10th Amendment it's a states rights issue, period. If we as conservatives actively campaign to violate the Constitution, no matter how just the cause then we become no better than liberals who actively campaign to violate the Constitution.

[SwampThing762]

Pman ^^^^What Cuts said^^^

Bugeye puts Ron Paul down in just about every thread with this thread being no exception. I challenged him on it and he can't back himself up on it. That isn't nitpicking.

I hate abortion just as much as you guys (one of the reasons I refuse to vote for Romney) but I also understand the federal government doesn't have the Constitutional power to regulate it. Ron Paul understands this also which is why he voted the way he did. It is super hypocritical to complain about Constitutional rights being taken away i.e. the 2nd Amendment while actively proposing that the government violate the Constitution in the case of abortion. According to the 10th Amendment it's a states rights issue, period. If we as conservatives actively campaign to violate the Constitution, no matter how just the cause then we become no better than liberals who actively campaign to violate the Constitution.

It is my belief, since abortions are performed on an individual, this is a 9th Amendment issue.   The 10th Amendment is a reference to states; since abortions cannot be performed on states, it is a peoples' rights issue.   However, if we ever gain the ability to abort states, I recommend we begin with Illinois, New York, and California (not necessarily in that order).

[Graybeard]

Indeed DB73, some here just can't get it.

Also seems some can't understand that Ron Paul is not running for President. He did that on the repupnate party ticket and lost. So he's no longer involved. I'm going to start deleting posts from folks that can't understand that. He is no longer an issue in this election cycle and likely won't be next time at least not as a candidate tho I'm sure if he's still alive he will still be trying to get the message across.

This election cycle he is out of the race, got it? If not get it.