Stop Islamization of Nations (SION)

[teamnelson]

http://freedomdefense.typepad.com/sion/


This organization and others have taken up the charge to advise policymakers on how best to deal with Islamization.


This is not anti-Islam, the religion. This is anti-Islamization; the systematic submission of sovereign nations to the will of a single religion.


It's not racist; Islam spans many races. This is cultural. Purportedly within Islam their are subcultures of contented peaceful Muslims going about their daily lives intent on raising families, etc. and not bent on violent overthrow. The culture of violence must be addressed as synonymous with terror, and peaceful Muslims must be a part of the solution.


Among other things, this organization (and I am not a member just merely learning about them) stands for cutting off foreign aid to Islamic Republics. Majority Muslim nations who practice freedom of religion are fine.


Its interesting to me that this has broad interest from Europe as well as the US. Perhaps this will have some traction on the political diplomatic front. Certainly more effective than saber rattling in the confines of an internet forum.

[powderman]

TEAMNELSON. That is the exact reason hussein has backed his muslim brotherhood in all these clashes. POWDERMAN. 

[rio grande]

TeamNelson, ,may we also cut off funding to Israel, the rogue state that possesses hundreds of nuclear weapons and has not signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty? Fair is fair, right?

If Israel is the 'miracle in the desert' it claims to be it does not need our assistance in any way. Surely the well-armed Israel can defend itself. 
Why are being conned into supporting Israel's war plans?

The problem is Israel. It remains a most destabilizing influence throughout the region.  Who else threatens to start a war in the mid-east? Iran has a defensive posture.

[Dixie Dude]

Do you really believe that?  When Israel became a nation, and was reckognised by the US and the UN along with European, Asian, and all the Americas.  The next day they were immediately attacked by the surrounding Muslim nations intent on driving them into the sea.  They were attacked again in 1956, and in 1967 Syria, Jordan, and Egypt had massed troops and tanks on the border and were about to attack when Israel attacked to stop them.  Again Egypt attacked in 1973 and was defeated again.  All these nations had the intent to drive them into the sea. 
 
Since 1967 Jordan gave up claim to the West Bank and settled on the Jordan River as their border, which was the Brittish line to start with when they gave Israel their independence. 
 
Read your history, Islam was spread from the begining by the sword.  Christianity took 400 years of persecution to spread by word of mouth throughout the Roman Empire.  Once it became the "official" religion, that is when the problems started.  It wasn't until Martin Luthor, the Reformation, and ultimately America to establish "Freedom OF religion" so that anyone could believe what they wanted so long as it was peaceful. 
 
In India their history records the Muslim barbarians who destroyed their culture, their religion, through force.  They finally threw them off.  They went about killing Buddists, Christians, Hindus, etc.  Those who didn't believe had to accept their rule and some who resisted where made slaves.  They are the ones who initially sold slaves to the Dutch who brought them to American. 
 
Peaceful religion, BS.  The Jews were killed and persecuted in Europe during the Nazi era and many fled to America and to Brittish held Israel, because that is their ancient homeland. 
 
Islam is a cult that Mohammad invented to extend his power over Arabia.  Allowing for 4 wives, slavery, with women and non-believers as sub-human.  Yes there are many peaceful Muslims, who only were raised that way.  I know a Palistinian who became a Christian who is now an American citizen.  His family disowned him, and if he returns, he will be killed for converting. 

[rio grande]

I do believe Israel is a pariah state, illegally possessing nuclear weapons obtained through theft and espionage, and which constantly threatens 'preemptive' war against its neighbors, as well as destabilizing them by means of assassination, economic and technical sabotage, support of terrorist groups (as in Syria now), and sanctions and blockades.

And certainly it has the capability of defending itself against the ragtag, divided, technologically backward, off-balance and mostly failed Muslim states.

Did I say Islam was a 'peaceful religion'?  No. The semitic peoples, both Arab and Israeli, are like a nest of fire ants. Best to keep your foot out. I am most aware of Muslim barbarities, and Jewish ones.  Not only Muslims were involved in the slave trade, for instance.

I prefer to keep our blood and money home in America, and not waste it on useless and immoral (and ruinous) foreign interventions.

[powderman]

DIXIE DUDE. Excellent post Sir but it fell on deaf ears. Those without God in their lives and have no knowledge of Gods word seem to always side with muslims. Not hard to understand that though.
God said he would bless those who bless Israel, and curse those who curse Israel. I truly believe that. POWDERMAN. 

[Hairy Chest]

Kind of funny how the same group that supports immigration in America suddenly becomes sensitive to too much immigration of another group.  The objective thing to do is to evaluate how different immigrant groups assimilate and their effect on crime, etc.  How does the effect of Muslim immigrants compare to say immigrants from Mexico? 

[powderman]

hairy. Most muslims don't assimilate at all. Their cult always comes first. They don't want to become Americans any more than many, if not most of the mex do. They want to set up their own little cults rt here in America and enjoy the perks of living here, without giving up their beliefs  and trying to make us change for them. The brits have pretty well been taken over by the ishmaelites and liberals. Sad to see a great nation go down the toilet of islam. POWDERMAN. 

[Hairy Chest]

powderman:

hairy. Most muslims don't assimilate at all. Their cult always comes first. They don't want to become Americans any more than many, if not most of the mex do. They want to set up their own little cults rt here in America and enjoy the perks of living here, without giving up their beliefs  and trying to make us change for them. The brits have pretty well been taken over by the ishmaelites and liberals. Sad to see a great nation go down the toilet of islam. POWDERMAN

That's the danger of immigration.  That's why the U.S. had an Immigration Act of 1924.  Jewish organizations opposed it, but they succeeded later with the 1965 Immigration Act that allowed unlimited amounts of Muslims to immigrate into the U.S.  Those who opposed the act were called 'racist'.