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Offline texasgreg

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new member with some drilling questions
« on: September 12, 2012, 09:01:31 AM »
Howdy from Texas! I'm a new member but really like this board, and especially this series of threads on drillings and combos.
 
I have several combos, a savage 24 in 22. lr/20 and a Springfield Armory M6 Scout in .22 hornet/410. I just found a pristine savage 24v in .223/20 and I'm excited about it. I have not received it yet but will have it in my hot little hands in about a week. I'm still looking for the 20 gauge version in either 357 or 30-30 for a reasonable price.
 
I'm also looking to get educated on drillings, and this forum thread series has been a big step in that direction. I've been shopping around for a drilling, and most are out of my budget.
 
Where are the best places to look for drillings at a reasonable price, if there is such a place, and  what are some good drillings to look for that sell in the lower price ranges of drillings.
 
The cheapest drilling I've seen was priced at $1200 in good condition in 16 gauge and in a rifle caliber I've not heard of before but am learning about now. I see many more that go far in excess of that, and realize most of these guns are in the very expensive range, for me at least. Most of the drillings I'm seeing online go for between $3k to $6k, and I realize many others go for far more.
 
Any suggestions would be helpful, both as to rifle calibers, ammo issues for the unusual rifle calibers and types/brands to look for and stores to look for them at.
 
I wish Ruger would make a drilling.

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Re: new member with some drilling questions
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2012, 03:20:45 PM »
  Sounds to me like you are already finding drillings!  Any decent drilling for $1,200.00 is a pretty good deal, and you should have had it checked out by someone knowledgable, and bought it "if" it really was in decent condition.
 
  If Ruger made a drilling, i HOPE they do a better job on it than they did on many of their other guns!!  For instance, like their shotguns they quit making them because they had too many problems.  Or, like their 10/22 mag. that was recalled and discontinued because it came apart when it was fired!
 
  A drilling needs to be made by someone who will take the time to do it right!  Not just get it on the market!
 
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Re: new member with some drilling questions
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 03:36:49 PM »
Hey Greg


sounds like you have a great collection of combo guns.


To me the drilling adds to the capabilities of the combo gun with the addition of the 2nd shot gun barrel.


The drilling might be the ultimate Texas gun.   I have gone dove hunting with the 16x16/8x57JR drilling.  But I also carry 8x57JR ammo along with slugs and buck shot.  This allows me to use the drilling for anything I might encounter hogs, coyote, raccoon, bobcat, skunk.


If I am hog hunting I have the option for the shotgun barrels to be loaded with slugs, buck shot or a combination of both and I have the rifle.


For the first time drilling purchase you need to be very careful.  The drilling parts are impossible to find, your smith will need to make any broken part.  Take this to mean any repairs are going to be expensive.  You really want to have the gun inspected by a smith who works on drillings.


I would not get hung up on the rifle caliber as long as ammo was commercially available.  7x57R was the first rifle caliber I purchased and it is easy to find ammo for and it is easy to identify a 7x57R gun.


The first question is what are you looking to do with the drilling?

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Re: new member with some drilling questions
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 05:41:59 PM »
Thanks for the responses!
The answer to Doug's last question is typical Texas field trapsin' and a fishing gun. I'm middle aged, but most of my bird hunting days as well as deer hunting days are over.  I did A LOT of both coming up and into my twenties, and I simply lost enthusiasm for those types of hunts. I shoot on a regular basis be it on a farm or a friend's place or at a local gun club.  I do hunt hogs and shoot snakes and other predators when the need arises, and have hunted various predators such as wolves and coyotes on occasion. I'd like to do some turkey hunting again.

Most of my outdoor time is spent fishing, and as a fellow Texan, you know that gators, hogs and javalinas, skunks, snakes of several poisonous and sometimes hostile varieties, wolves, coyotes, various rabid animals,  and bobcats are what are around respectively in east Texas, The Upper and Central Coastal part of Texas and Central Texas/Hill Country, which are all areas where I do a lot of my fishing.

A combo gun and a powerful backup handgun certainly fill the bill for me for most of my fishing and sporting situations. I don't have a real need for a drilling, I just think it would be cool to shoot one regularly and see the practicality of having one in the field. It would have been great to have had a drilling when in my youth bird, turkey and deer season merged momentarily and in our hunting lands back then, you might encounter all of the above on a daily hunt. Combo rifles were not unheard of back then but we used double barreled shotguns loaded with slug and birdshot to deal with the variety we would encounter, having some various sized shotshells, slugs and buckshot on an ammo belt. After getting a Savage 24 from a relative, I was hooked on the utility of a combo gun.   

With a drilling, as you know,  it would just be nice to have some #4 or #8 in one barrel, some buckshot in the other shotgun barrel, and then a rifle caliber of sufficient size to take out a decent sized hog with a well placed shot. I think that would cover the bases. Generally, I carry the combo guns I have with birdshot in the shotgun barrel and a rifle cartridge (obviously) in the rifle barrel, foregoing the buckshot that I could carry in the second barrel of a drilling unless I'm thinking I'm gonna see a hog instead of a big Texas-sized snake.

So there is some outside chance that I might be able to get a drilling one day. I realize a bargain is not always a bargain in terms of fabricating parts, and I'll take heed at your advice. I also have some interest in some of the "nicer" combo rifles that have been made in the recent and not so recent past, and I've learned about some of these guns at this forum.  Realizing I could get a great combo rifle vs. a questionable and likely in need of some kind of smithing bargain drilling, I might be inclined to go with the combo. So for now I'll be content with my combos, and learn about drillings as much as I can in the meantime.

Any links to any websites about drillings or great threads elsewhere would be highly appreciated!
 
As an aside, I'd also like but can't afford a double rifle, except for something like the Baikal offering through EAA. That would be fun for hogs in .45-70 with a nice red dot scope or fiber optic sights.

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Re: new member with some drilling questions
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 06:00:22 PM »
So Drilling Man, who could make a good drilling? I'm curious to your opinion as a gun owner and person who knows a lot about drillings.
My experiences with Ruger have been great. I have owned several of their guns with no issues ever. Handguns and rifles.  Never had a Ruger shotgun. I still think a Ruger drilling would be cool, and they are one of the few companies that are offbeat enough to do it. I would envision it to be something like the single shot Ruger high end rifles, but with three barrels and two triggers.
What if somebody like Kel-Tec did their own take on a drilling? Or Rossi/Taurus?  And what of all the foreign interests from all kinds of places who are making guns for the American markets? I wonder why none of them are making drillings to sell for lots more then they can sell their 1911 clones (made from the far East to Turkey and all other kinds of places)?
Lots of these foreign companies fabricate their designs from other companies pre-existing products. So their R&D isn't that much. What about a modern company doing the same with an older drilling design?

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Re: new member with some drilling questions
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 05:20:58 PM »
So Drilling Man, who could make a good drilling? I'm curious to your opinion as a gun owner and person who knows a lot about drillings.

  I think those that WILL take the time to make a drilling "right" are the ones that are already doing so...  A drilling isn't something you can half azz to get it out on the market, so i don't think anyone who isn't now making a drilling would take the time and spend the money to make one "right"!
 
  If you want a combo gun that you have to aim over here, to hit over there, Savage has already made those, just go out and buy one.  They call them the model 24.
 
  To get a drilling to shoot like it should, be accurate like it should be, it takes time, and time is money...
 
  DM
 
  I just reread your origional post, sorry i insulted your Savage 24's.  lol  I've had several, all were crude and not one of them shot both bbls to the sights at the same time.  I keep reading that complaint all over the net from other owners, so they don't get too many brownie points from me.