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Offline tsigmon

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.30-30 potential problem
« on: October 07, 2012, 01:01:15 AM »
Stopped by the local pawn shop/gun store the a week ago just to browse for a deal and to make a long story short ended up with a NIB .30-30 Handi on lay-a-way. Saw it in the box, handled it , but never opened it and put some money down on it and left. Stopped by this week to make a payment and some guys were in there and overheard the coversation and wanted to see it , so the owner brought it out.I went to open it and talk about tight! I just about had to put across my knee to get it open.  I worked on a .243 for a friends son a while back  that was pretty stiff and got it to open easily but it was not near as bad as this one. Question is, should I wait on another one, keep this one and work on it or keep it and send back to the factory to be worked on? My first thought is to keep it and work on it myself because finding a .30-30 Handi   (or any Handi for that matter)  around here is kinda' rare. I need some advice,and the number to Handi-holics  Annom.
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Re: .30-30 potential problem
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 01:05:13 AM »
Hi,
 
More than likely the problem is easily resolved my sanding the front of the plastic foreend spacer.  I am assuming this is a wood or laminate stock and not a synthetic stock.  If synthetic than you have to sand the rounded part of the back of the forestock.  Just sand a little at a time, clean and reinstall and check how the action opens. Stop sanding when you get close to what you want as the action will loosen up some more with use. I have bought several Handis since they started making them in Ilion and all were very tight.  Good Luck.  BTW, probably good idea to spend some time in the FAQ sticky thread as this problem and a bunch more are covered.
 
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Re: .30-30 potential problem
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2012, 01:28:08 AM »
I think I'd PM Brian56 about it and ask his thoughts.  He may want to see it.  If it went to him, I know it would come home a perfect Handi.  Everything I've sent him has come back a light triggered tack driver.
 
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Re: .30-30 potential problem
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2012, 01:35:53 AM »
why buy something broke?
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Re: .30-30 potential problem
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2012, 02:21:30 AM »
Apply some well shaken lubricant with teflon in it to the wear points. Could be the factory lubricants have hardened with time. I like stuff to 'wear in' rather than 'wear out'. I'm one that has sent Handi Rifles back to factory because they were 'too loose'! You also might try removing the forearm and testing.
PS-the factory team always did a great job of any Handi I sent in for barrel fitting!
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Re: .30-30 potential problem
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2012, 02:58:02 AM »
Quote from: bikerbeans on October 07, 2012, 01:05:13 AM
Hi,
 
More than likely the problem is easily resolved my sanding the front of the plastic foreend spacer.  I am assuming this is a wood or laminate stock and not a synthetic stock.  If synthetic than you have to sand the rounded part of the back of the forestock.  Just sand a little at a time, clean and reinstall and check how the action opens. Stop sanding when you get close to what you want as the action will loosen up some more with use. I have bought several Handis since they started making them in Ilion and all were very tight.  Good Luck.  BTW, probably good idea to spend some time in the FAQ sticky thread as this problem and a bunch more are covered.
 
BB

I agree 100%!
 
Next time you go in, ask for or bring along a screw driver and remove the forend. You will see the forend will be very tight and once removed the action will fall apart. This is because the forend holds the barrel on the receiver.. ::) The fix is just as BB outlined for you.
IF you dont want to mess with it, Peter has accurately suggested contacting Brian and sending it back in.
 
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Re: .30-30 potential problem
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 03:10:47 AM »
A big +1 with Alan and the chaps; you wouldnt want to buy a new car with a loose engine but built to min. spec throughout (when we did rebuilds we preferred to 'blueprint' them just so).
You might have to really pull on that unscrewed forearm to get it off, then check that lockup BUT watch/handle with care 'cause that barrel will fall right off once it opens! I would want to wipe the standing breach, barrel and locking lug/shelf off with some solvent to not have some sticky oil masking the real lockup. You just might have a bank vault there.
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Re: .30-30 potential problem
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2012, 11:47:12 AM »
Thanks for all of the repiles, I really don't think it is broke, just not fitted as good as it could be. I too feel its the fore end and should be a simple fix as per the FAQ's  and have read and re read them . There is a lot of info there  and it is hard  for me to remember it all with out a little proding. I think I'll tinker with it myself to see what happens and if I screw it up too bad I' ll let ya'll know.Thanks again everyone.
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Re: .30-30 potential problem
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2012, 01:00:51 PM »
I've bought about a dozen new H&Rs that were the same way, and had to make adjustments for many other forends that were too tight, as has been said, it's real easy to fix on a wood forend, see FOREND FIT in the FAQs.

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