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Offline Dales66Ford

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223 issue
« on: September 10, 2012, 06:08:13 AM »
Finally got my 223 heavy barrel out on the range to do a rough site in.  The problem I am seeing is it will not fire certain brands of ammo, I am guessing the primers are too hard.  PMC and American Eagle are a no go.  Functioned fine with the standard Remington fodder.  Is this normal or something that can be corrected?
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Re: 223 issue
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 09:06:27 AM »
Are you using .556 Nato or 223 Rem ammo? The milspec stuff has harder primers than sporting ammo. There are lots of causes of misfires, but since Rem ammo works fine, a Wolff extra power hammer spring may make a difference with the ammo that didn't fire, I replace the factory hammer spring with one when ever I do a trigger job, see the FAQs for info on misfires and failure to fire, lots of into on that subject can be found.

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Re: 223 issue
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 10:30:18 AM »
it is 223, not 5.56.  I just went and looked just to make sure, but thanx for the reminder.
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Re: 223 issue
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 05:14:09 PM »
Tried some other quality brands of ammo today and it will only fire the Remington ammo, combined with the 12 lb plus trigger pull it looks like I may have to take it apart. Never attempted that before, should be fun.
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Re: 223 issue
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 01:45:55 AM »
Mine wouldn't consistantly fire the HSM brand ammo.  Black Hills, Hornady, and Federal weren't a problem though. 
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Re: 223 issue
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 02:25:08 AM »
This is something that was a daily posting some time back. Lately either guys remember it or have  ot had the problems. But it's something all handi haulics should know by now. We have. Sa members that may have missed it so here ya go again! ;)

Wolfe extra power springs are something all H&R shooters should have "on the shelf". As Tim usually reminds us they are cheaper and available in a five pack too!! Brownels and Midway will. Oth have them. Modern guns are the single coil. 058, 158 and 258's are likely dual coil guns. But another way to know is a rebounding hammer gun is a dual coil and a transfer bar gun is a single.

 We know that Handis are known to have weak or barely marginal hammer springs. Many of us simply change them out just as a precaution. Just as you would remove bases to clean screws and add new lock tote a new guns scope base. It's something that comes up so regularly I just do it.

As suggested, get yourself a couple and swap them out, it's easy and outlined in the FAQ's for ya!

If you have a problem or question on the process, start another post with the question. Remember, the ONLY stupid questions are the ones you do not ask. No one knows everything, we all like to help!

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Re: 223 issue
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 04:50:58 AM »
Maybe of late H&R has upgraded their springs? They probably only had a million or so to use up first............
Cant help but wonder if you might also be at the point that yours is getting the 'light strike' from the known bad transfer bar issue. No downside to putting in the spring first, but do a search on the T-bar thing anyway.
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