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Offline JamesIII

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45-70 load question
« on: October 23, 2012, 02:24:05 AM »
I am loading an H&R 45-70 with 39 grains of Reloader 7 under a Rem 405 grain jacketed soft point, do I need to be concerned about the large amount of empty space in the case? I have a COAL of 2.550, but want to move the bullet out close to a tenth more to match this very long throated barrel. Thanks, JamesIII

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Re: 45-70 load question
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2012, 05:28:05 AM »
No problem.  Lyman lists 31. something with a 400 gr at normal length so you are at 39 so one tenth isn't going to cause any concerns.
Reloader 7 is very forgiving.
When did they start putting a long throat in them.  Mine isn't long throated.
 
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Re: 45-70 load question
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2012, 04:44:18 PM »
Yep, I use reloader 7 from 34 gr. for trap door level loads to 52 gr. ruger #1 level loads.  Some I know go as high as 56, but I don't need the extra recoil.  lol  My goto load is 350 gr. RNFP with 49 gr. RL7.  ;)
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Re: 45-70 load question
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2012, 12:07:45 AM »
if you would like some nice like black powder loads try trail boss that is all i use for target shooting.i can shoot these for hours with no pain.405 cast bullet. ;)

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Re: 45-70 load question
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 07:40:39 PM »
The empty space in the cartridge is only an issue if you are using black powder, or if using smokeless powder AND having ignition issues.
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Re: 45-70 load question
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2012, 03:26:51 AM »
In the old days we put some dacron filler wadding in to hold powder back next to the primer, there were worries of "detonation". I (and everyone else) stopped doing that long ago as it turned out to be unnecessary, just an extra step, time and expense. I use 47 gr of RL 7 under my 300gr HP's, but have used as little as 35gr, and I use 32 gr of 4198 under 385 gr cast, so space is not really a problem unless you are having accuracy problems due to inconsistent ignition.
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Re: 45-70 load question
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2012, 05:39:31 AM »
I am loading an H&R 45-70 with 39 grains of Reloader 7 under a Rem 405 grain jacketed soft point, do I need to be concerned about the large amount of empty space in the case? I have a COAL of 2.550, but want to move the bullet out close to a tenth more to match this very long throated barrel. Thanks, JamesIII

If your charge is greater than 50%, then yes, you will benefit from adding Dacron or filler to fill the space.  If it is lower then you will have problems. 
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Re: 45-70 load question
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2012, 06:44:51 AM »
To repete you will have no trouble using 39 grains of Reloader 7 with a Remington 405 gr bullet seated out a tenth inch more.
Reloader 7 is very forgiving when it comes to air space.  It will not tolerate a huge air space well but at the level you are loading it will be okay.
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Re: 45-70 load question
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2012, 04:22:30 AM »
Thanks for the replies, I will be moving the bullet closer to the lands. JamesIII