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For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« on: November 04, 2012, 06:02:12 AM »
Here's a good video to preview before you vote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjBXufufUU&feature=youtu.be

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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2012, 06:49:56 AM »




"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 07:19:52 AM »
Basically if you are trying to tie Romney on all of those Opposed aspects, all of them are incorrect.  And most of the supports ones are as well.  Your groups can twist and turn things but they are wrong.  Johnson himself has the exact same views on most of those issues.  Except for drugs and being a pro-abortionist he is a carbon copy.  Look at his record.  If you can't see a difference between Obama and Romney you didn't watch the debates or any of their plans.  It's blindness.  But that is not the point of the video.

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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 07:34:50 AM »
A pretty good propaganda film.


Should I vote for central planner marxist A or central planner fascist B. Since both men believe that they can do more for us through central planning as they have said, and since central planning has failed throughout history, and since central planning has led us to the greater depression, then I choose the protest vote. Now if I were to vote for one of them, I would probably hand it over to Obama for this reason. The first part of the economic storm came in 2008. Obama has ridden the eye of the hurricane. The second and most destructive part is to follow. Why do I believe this: because the powers to be have done the exact opposite of what should have been done in the face of what the austrian economists clearly showed. So, since I believe the storm will hit in the next presidential term and may be fatal, if Romney is president, capitalism will be blamed. If Obama is president, socialism will be blamed. As we rebuild, what mindset of the people would be best?


Don't worry though, since there is no way that my vote will count, I will stay home in patriotic protest, refusing to sanction their divide and conquer game. If my vote did matter and I did not vote, it would end in a tie. But as with the Florida chads, they will never let this happen. The courts will decide in the name of the powers that be.
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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 07:31:41 AM »
Basically if you are trying to tie Romney on all of those Opposed aspects, all of them are incorrect.  And most of the supports ones are as well.  Your groups can twist and turn things but they are wrong.  Johnson himself has the exact same views on most of those issues.  Except for drugs and being a pro-abortionist he is a carbon copy.  Look at his record.  If you can't see a difference between Obama and Romney you didn't watch the debates or any of their plans.  It's blindness.  But that is not the point of the video.

Let's see, should I believe the debates where Obamney is telling me exactly what I want to hear, read Obamney's plan where he's telling me exactly what I want to hear or should I research Obamney's actual voting record. Hmmmm.....
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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 07:56:40 AM »
I'm still going to vote for Johnson.
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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 08:13:25 AM »
I'm still going to vote for Johnson.

I'm actually glad to hear that.  Hopefully millions of like minded liberals will do the same...
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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 08:58:34 AM »
We haven't had capitalism in the USA for a very long time but lots of Socialists still like to blame capitalism anytime something goes wrong because they refuse to accept the fact that Socialism simply doesn't work.
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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2012, 09:01:56 AM »
Gary,,,even if Mitt, the investment banker, is placed in office and we have economic collapse it will be blamed on socialism. We don't have a capitalistic system in the USA...too bad the central planners at Goldman Sachs and Wall aren't Austrians.
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TM, I hope you are right about that. The fact is that we haven't had a capitalistic system since the powers that be gave us a Soviet style central bank. But, the boobwasie doesn't know that. They like the circuses and bread.
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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2012, 01:50:27 PM »
I'm still going to vote for Johnson.

I'm actually glad to hear that.  Hopefully millions of like minded liberals will do the same...




I'm definitely not Liberal, but I mailed my ballot in last week and G. Johnson was one of the boxes I checked.Mostly Libertarian and Constitution that I voted for, but a handful of Republicans got the nod. No Democrats.

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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2012, 06:23:27 PM »
I also will vote for Johnson. I see a clear difference between Romney and Obama. And between Ryan and Biden.  I have no great love for Biden, he was one of the architects of the assault weapon ban, while Ryan is a hunter. On the other hand, Ryan believes that a biological process going on in your own body should be subject to government monitoring and control, Biden believes it is YOUR business.  Despite claims to the contrary, neither Obama nor Romney want to do anything constructive about wall street. Wealth continues to be concentrated at the top, a bad idea. The theory of trickle down economics is idiotic. Anyone who has ever raised an animal or grown a plant knows that. You kill the fattest hogs first. Then the smaller ones have more to eat and grow until it is there turn. NOTHING grows forever, there is an optimum size for everything, past that point there is diminishing returns. Obama wants to provide health care for everyone , something we basically do already through emergency rooms but at astronomical costs. He screwed up because he handed a boon to the insurance companies by increasing patronage but not controlling costs. They say he would control access. So ? Access is already controlled. Romney would just double down on the present system of rationing ,,,,,,the poor get crappier care or minimal care at the ER. Anyone who would provide a heart for transplant to the one most able to pay rather that the one who would derive the most benefit from it should be used for organ donation themselves..... immediately. 
    Meanwhile, both O & R would continue the worthless war on drugs that serves as a college for criminals and an outlet for borderline sadomasochists who need steady employment in the prison system, while denying us a new and badly needed revenue stream. They also both will continue the surveillance programs, both electronic and with drones, both here and abroad.
      People who might vote for Obama think since I own property and they dont, I should have to give it to them. People who might vote for Romney think since I own property but cannot or dont want develop it to maximize its value, I should have to give it to them.

Yup, there is a clear difference. Personally, I hope you guys get everyone so riled up that you start dropping in the streets with myocardial infarctions and anyurisims , meanwhile, I have the chips and dip ready to go. Hop to it boys.
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Re: For all you looking at Gary Johnson or 3rd Party this election
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 02:13:54 AM »
Well, the day is finally here and good luck to all of your chosen candidates.
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