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Took out a Nisson Altama, without trying
« on: November 09, 2012, 08:33:13 AM »
Thank goodness for after market Steel Bumpers.  I drive an 08, 4 door Jeep Wrangler.  I have an off road modular steel bumper with a stinger on the front.  This thing is massive, and heavy.

last evening I was traversing the most dangerous intersection in Fairbanks, Johannson Expressway and University Ave.  The Johannson ends at University, and the road across is Giest Rd.  I was on the Johannson, where we had a left turn lane, two lanes going straight across, and a right turn lane.  There was a big box truck in the lane to go across.  As I approched the intersection no one was in the left turn lane, the way I needed to go.  The people on University started turn left onto the Johannson.  I was almost stopped when suddenly there was a car cutting the corner and coming into my lane.  I stopped, she did not.  A Nisson Altama, hit me.  Half of her bumper hit half of my bumper.  The temp was 12 below, plastic flew everywhere from her front end, I felt a jar.  The left turn signal for University had turned yellow and the Toyota Tocoma following her rear ended her.  This knocked the Altama spinning across both lanes and into the Jersey Wall beside the roadway.  The Toyota after hitting the Altama, slid on the ice to her left, and impalled her truck on my stinger.  My stinger went through her window, angling towartds the rear.  Luckily she was not hit by the big tube, the door raised my Jeep enough the tube slid over and behind her head, against the roof of her truck.  I think her air bag may have shoved the tube away, there was a black dirty mark on the side of her air bag. 

My airbag did not deploy, I did not get hit hard enough I guess.  The first hit by the Nisson was a glancing blow.  The second was more a lifting, as the stinger went through the window then was raised up by the door.  I got out to see if the driver in the truck was OK.  A little elderly lady, scared bad.  I helped her out the passengers side of her truck, she had a bloody nose and lips from the air bag.  Other people got out to help, and they went across and pulled the young girl out of the Nisson.   The air bag had left it's marks on her as well.  The Police arrived and started investigating.  It was cold so I asked the elder lady to get into my Jeep to stay warm.  She sat down in the Jeep and told me she did not understand what had happened.  She admitted she was trying to beat the light, and get through the intersection.  She said she should have stopped, and not tried to speed up to get through.  I did not say anything.

The EMTs arrived, two came over and took care of the bloody nose and lips on the old woman.  The Cop was interviewing the young girl in the Nisson first.  Then he came over to ask me what had happened.  I told him what I had experienced, he said that is what the witnesses had also told him.  Several more people were standing around my Jeep and told him the same thing others had said.  He told me I was free to go as soon as a wrecker got my vehicle loose from the little truck.  We looked at my Jeep, the officer was surprised at the fact I had received no significant damage to my vehicle.  I backed my Jeep up enough to remove my stinger from the window.  The coating was ground off the bottom and right side of the stinger.  The left end piece was bent back, but not enough to hit the wheel.  And the coating has also been ground off in places.

The Toyota pickup had significant damage to the front end.  Bumper shoved back into the wheel on the right side, and the right fender was also crushed.  The drivers door had damage, along with the piller behind the door.  The Nisson both ends had lost the plastic covering the internal bumpers.  As cold as it was, that plastic shattered like glass.  Then her left side from the rear wheel to the drivers door was caved in where the Toyota hit her. 

I stayed around letting the old lady stay in my Jeep till her daughter arrived.  I left after that, the wreckers were just pulling up as I drove away.  I brought my Jeep into the garage, and took off the bent end to my bumper.  I got out the torch and heated up the bent area till it was glowing.  using the Heel of my anvil and a five pound hammer, I straightened back out.  Come spring I'll take the end cap and the stinger off and have them recoated.  They have the same coating that is used for bed lineing on pickups.   

The main thing is no one was hurt. 
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Re: Took out a Nisson Altama, without trying
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 08:53:12 AM »
Can't see how anyone in a cold climate would want a Wrangler, but they are a good vehicle for that kind of collision. A lot of the ones I see in Minnesota are considered toys and get put away during the winter. The ones I see here are all rag tops, that's why I say it's a lousy Minnesota car during winter. Reputation is they they are bad on ice.
 
But I'm willing to be convinced. You've obviously got it for a reason. Why does it work well for you?

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Re: Took out a Nisson Altama, without trying
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 09:16:29 AM »
I don't want a short one, I only want the longer wheelbase like I have.  Actually they are great on ice, I seldom have to put it in 4-wheel drive driving around town where it's icy all the time.  You have to be aware of the positraction, it'll get you in trouble in a heart beat.  But I have been driving them for 27 years up her and like them. 

The Chevy S-10 stays in 4-Wheel drive from the time we get into town till we leave.  Same for my F-350.  I have the hard top.  The only complaint I have with the Jeep is it don't have electric mirrors, and the flat floor.  When it's snowing the top left corner of the windshield is going to be covered with ice.  No way around it, that corner will ice up and stay iced up till you get it into a garage to thaw it out.  The wipers don't reach there neither does the heater.  But they crawl through snow like it's hardly there.
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Re: Took out a Nisson Altama, without trying
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 09:40:59 AM »
That clears it up. Makes sense. I see very few of the long hard-top style Wranglers here, but many other Jeep models.
 
The ones I remember seeing in the winter were all the short rag tops, usually being driven by somebody that looks like they are very very uncomfortable.

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Re: Took out a Nisson Altama, without trying
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 10:16:24 AM »
Good report on that incident, Sourdough!
Certainly glad that you and others were not injured !
Never been in Fairbanks in the winter time, but have been in Anchorage and those streets downtown are lots of "fun" to drive on when snowpacked and icy!!
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Re: Took out a Nisson Altama, without trying
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 12:40:26 PM »
Just got back from town, today is much worse than yesterday.  It's warmed up and the roads are sweating.  There is a this layer of ice over all the pavement.  yesterday only the intersections were icy.  Today all the roads even the highway out side of town are icy.  Saw lots of little front wheel drive cars in the center of the highway stuck.  At least they were all still upright.
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Re: Took out a Nisson Altama, without trying
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 06:21:29 PM »
At least the DOT in Nova Scotia has enough sense to legalize studded winter tires. My truck is a 4x2 with 4 studded tires for the winter.
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Re: Took out a Nisson Altama, without trying
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 06:36:58 PM »
I put studded tires on my Mazda Miata, just so i could drive it if I needed to.  The wife will not let me have it back.  She drives it to work everyday.  With the studs, no problem.  She gets around just as well as the folks with 4-wheel drive.  Of course she does not get off the beaten path either.
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