:-D, Thanks for all the input guys. I took it all in, checked a few sites, and still smarting from having lost the Nikon ProStaff 2-7 for a good price checked e-bay again. Remember I said I would like a Leupold? Well I just happened upon a 1 day auction of several NEW in box Leupolds from a dealer. I was the high bidder on a NIB Leupold Rifleman 2-7x33 at $147.51 with no taxes and a $7.00 shipping charge. The seller has great feedback as a reputable seller also, life is sweet. A bit more than I wanted to spend but much more than I ever expected to get. My lovely wife says it ill be my Valentines Day gift. Now what to get her? A new spotting scope maybe? No that won't do, she wants a new addition and 2 car garage, I feel guilty about getting it for her because I really want it also but sometimes you have to make the hard decisions, Thanks God....<><.... :grin: