thing is, a 410 double barrel is bout as rare as a hens tooth and kinda high to buy. the only 410,s ya see are either single barrels, which can be had pretty cheap or mossberg pumps that run about 175 to 250 bucks. the doubles are out there but are very exspensive from what ive seen. this is jus my observations. twas me, id get a 20 ga and enjoy the wider selection and much cheaper shells. but jus so you know, win is makin the lever 94 in 410, saiga is makin the ak in 410! try the win for what youd pay for a double! the 410 is cool for small game but yu got to know its limitations and also that fast second shot can be handy. happy huntin! oh and share them tree rat recipes!