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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2013, 11:27:02 AM »
SharonAnne:  post 20, re:  "common knowledge".  Would you be more comfortable with the terms "direct observation and experience" or "anecdotal evidence from other folks who were there"?
 
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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2013, 02:20:46 PM »
reliQ 'common knowledge' is most often "anecdotal' which I do not take as 'evidence'.  "Direct observation and experience" I accept as fact.

To the USMC 'common knowledge' would normally be termed 'scuttlebutt'.
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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2013, 02:48:27 PM »
Well, after seeing one hole made in a P/U floor board with a broken model 94, one hole made in the ceiling by a shotgun, one high school classmate killed by a .22, this idiot shooting himself in the wrist and one errant shot by another  idiot(scared the heck out of me), this boy carries an empty chamber in his rifle while hunting (not my carry weapon though).

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2013, 03:08:00 PM »
Common knowledge is nothing more than beliefs shared by a number of minds.  It constitutes no basis in either fact or fiction therefore holds little weight in most cases.  But enough of that crap.


As has been stated, there are really only two reasonable ways to carry a 1911, either with an empty chamber that has you facing strike 3 when only one pitch  may be thrown or cocked and locked as designed.  For anyone who fears carrying cocked and locked due to seeing the hammer back I would suggest getting a Colt 1903 pocket pistol.  It has similar works but without a visible hammer to labor the mind.


FPH you need to find new friends dude.  Maybe someone with a measurable IQ.

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2013, 03:24:27 PM »
FPH you need to find new friends dude.  Maybe someone with a measurable IQ.

  Actually, these were all "invited" by someone else, and other than my classmate that was killed, I had never met them before.  Idiots all......I stayed as far away from them as I could.

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2013, 05:01:55 PM »
Common knowledge is nothing more than beliefs shared by a number of minds.  It constitutes no basis in either fact or fiction therefore holds little weight in most cases.  But enough of that crap.


As has been stated, there are really only two reasonable ways to carry a 1911, either with an empty chamber that has you facing strike 3 when only one pitch  may be thrown or cocked and locked as designed.  For anyone who fears carrying cocked and locked due to seeing the hammer back I would suggest getting a Colt 1903 pocket pistol.  It has similar works but without a visible hammer to labor the mind.


FPH you need to find new friends dude.  Maybe someone with a measurable IQ.

There's one more option. I'm simply getting a holster with a keeper that will go between the hammer and firing pin. Cocked & Locked but with an added measure of safety needed or not. :)

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2013, 01:25:38 AM »
SpiritHawk, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. IMHO!
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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2013, 01:58:04 AM »
No there's nothing wrong with such a containment system but SH, I get the feeling you're letting the sight of this ready hammer bother you too much.  Once you get more experience with gun this should dissipate.  This ain't a KelTec and you're not likely to carry it next to the family jewels.  That in itself should give you more confidence.   ;D 

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2013, 03:33:53 AM »
Actually, I only use the phrase "common knowledge" for things that I've looked into and can verify.  Y'all use it however y'all choose.  I'm familiar with USN/USMC scuttlebutt or sea stories, USArmy Blowing Smoke or war stories, or USAF wingwiper stories.  Stuff that I've researched and have documented I call "facts". 
 
Everyone who carries some form of 1911, among the cops I personally know and/or am kin to, carries it chambered, cocked, and locked with some form of thumb-break safety strap between the hammer and the slide.  When I carry one around the farm or the woods, that's the way I carry it, in an old duty holster.  Socially, I use one of the belt-mounted slides.
 
I started carrying guns for hunting and recreation in the 50s, professionally in the 60s (quit hunting in the 70s), and socially in the 80s.  I shot in paper-punching competitions and the Practical Police-style matches from the 60s-90s.   I've seen one accidental discharge on a rifle range during qualification (idiot didn't clear the weapon), one on a .45 range during qualification (ditto idiot), one at the smallbore pistol range during the 1968 4th Army matches (defective pistol).  I've never been around one in the groups with whom I hunted or had one myself.  TRAINING AND PRACTICE HELPS PREVENT ERRORS.
 
 

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2013, 10:43:16 AM »
Syko. I did note the big smile. I hope that tells me you are being facetious.
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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2013, 11:12:32 AM »
Syko. I did note the big smile. I hope that tells me you are being facetious.


If that great big word means smart a** then yep. ;) ;D

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2013, 11:19:46 AM »
that it means
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An armed society is a polite society - Robert Heinlein

THE TREE OF LIBERTY MUST BE REFRESHED FROM TIME TO TIME WITH THE BLOOD OF PATRIOTS AND TYRANTS - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2013, 06:26:30 PM »
Practice with different options and carry the way makes ya feel most comfy. I have always carried with one in the pipe, hammer all the way down.
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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2013, 06:31:05 PM »
trying to get this old pict on here . Hey it worked. Thats me on the right 18 yrs. old.   
 
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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2013, 11:24:27 PM »
animal, you have not changed a bit
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An armed society is a polite society - Robert Heinlein

THE TREE OF LIBERTY MUST BE REFRESHED FROM TIME TO TIME WITH THE BLOOD OF PATRIOTS AND TYRANTS - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2013, 03:23:13 AM »
Sharon-Anne,
 
Now that's a good one LOL. I'm glad that the 45 is so popular now. It makes all things related easier to get, especially once fired brass.
 
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Re: Carry Question
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2013, 08:12:56 AM »
1900- common sense = 2013 RARE sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD LUCK and GOOD SHOOTING!!!
IF YOU'RE GONNA GET OLD,YOU BETTER BE TOUGH!! GETTIN' OLD AIN'T FOR SISSIES!!!