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Offline John E Davies

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Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« on: December 02, 2012, 07:27:20 AM »
I see lots of new and used barrels and wood parts for sale at what I consider to be seriously inflated prices, compared to the prices of complete guns. Or is it that complete guns just aren't nearly as valuable as the bits, sold separately?

I can't understand why someone would try to sell a complicated collection of multiple barrels, scopes, frames and grips rather than breaking it up and selling it piecemeal for perhaps 50% more profit.

This is a good example:



 ... http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=319745456

I bought a very nice used early model pistol with a super 16 barrel at a pawn shop, sold off the barrel and ended up with just $115 invested in the frame. It seems as if this is a workable strategy, as long as it doesn't involve lots of FFL transfer fees.

Comments welcome.

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Spokane WA USA

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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 07:47:22 AM »
Not everyone wants another gun.But everyone could use a different barrel and stock to go with. A barrel is usually cheaper than a complete 2nd gun. Overpriced yeah but they sell.
 
 
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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 08:06:41 PM »
I can state one BIG reason with some pretty convincing authority after selling my last 20 Contenders and all their realted gear the last 3 plus years via the classifieds on several forums.   With the economy (or trolls using it as an excuse), not that many buyers are looking for complete Contender UNLESS they can buy them for pocket change.   With my 20 frames, only one was sold with its custom barrel and custom furniture and all the rest were sold as frames alone.   The one (minus the scope) because it was a one of a kind and well known, and for less than it could have sold it on a gun action (I chose not to use them).   That meant I had to piecemeal off a truckload of barrels, furniture, scopes, mounts, parts, tools, most of the reloading suplies and dies, etc for them sold one at a time.  I set fair to lower than fair prices on most, giveaway on some and literally gave some away to finally get them all gone, and it took that long.   
 
And to add to the mix, it's taken me about 7 years to sell around 45 other firearms as well for fair to lower than fair prices, many still new in the box for less than I paid for them years ago.  I still have a ton to sell, but after that many years trying I tend to put it off rather than dealing with all the trolls.   FWIW
 
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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2012, 03:47:12 AM »
Barrels are selling much slower right now.  Guessing any spare cash is going into Glocks and AR's

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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 02:43:19 PM »
Barrels are selling much slower right now.  Guessing any spare cash is going into Glocks and AR's

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Funny, I just sold a Glock and an AR to get into Contenders....seemed "ban proof".  I bought a package deal and sold off the unwanted items-ended up with a great basic contender.  Then spent the money made on more barrels and scopes. 
What's my favorite Contender?  The one I'm shooting!

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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2012, 06:41:51 AM »
I think one thing that drags down the value of frame/barrel sets is that it's difficult to find many people who are interested in all pieces in the set. 
In almost every set I see, there is one or two oddball barrels that I have absolutely NO interest in.  Like a .45-70 or a .256.  So I look at these barrels and to me they represent a hassle factor, not a benefit. 
In general, the trend on the major gun sites is almost ALWAYS that sellers overprice compared to the actual market.  I blame this on the fact that many sellers tend to look at the other seller's asking prices and use that to form their ideas of market value. 
Asking price is meaningless.  You can post a heap of cow dung with an asking price of $1000.  You ain't gonna get it.
The only real measure is SELLING price, and often you have to do more digging to get this information because on the gun sites you need to watch what sells and look at past actual sales.   This is more work than many sellers are willing to do.
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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 02:16:54 AM »
Some people love to buy & sell. To others it's a hassle. I love to buy but selling is not something I really enjoy. Mostly because, like Ladobe, of the trolls & low ballers. If I want something I pay a reasonable price for it. Usually the asking price if it is anywhere close to fair. If not I just move on. It's not worth the hassle of negotiating.

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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2012, 02:59:06 AM »
I'm new to the Contender world, so forgive my naivety.  I look at Contender classifieds (here and other places) all the time, but I'm looking for good deals.  I rarely find them.  Does that make me a troll or a low-baller?  I surely hope not.  Regularly, I'm shocked by the prices I see.  Quite often, I see used barrels for prices much higher than I can buy new.  And, when I buy new, I have warranties and can return them if I'm not happy. 

Maybe I just don't recognize the value proposition that's before me when I'm looking at a $500 used barrel of unknown origin and unmeasurable condition.  This isn't aimed at any particular seller and I don't have any specific ad to which I'm referring.  Just weighing in as a potential buyer that rarely finds anything to buy.  Your mileage may vary.

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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2012, 03:06:42 AM »
I'm not a dealer, but had a table at a recent local gun show, to sell a couple of things I no longer hunt with. 
 
FWIW, the guy across the aisle dealt in Contenders/Encores, etc, and had lots of "extras" in barrels...he said it was because he sometimes had to buy "sets" to get the gun he wanted, and wound up with odd-caliber barrels that he had a hard time selling. 

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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2012, 05:19:37 AM »
Well TT, if your just looking for deals that's fine. A lowballer is someone that makes ridicules offers hopeing to catch someone in a bind that has to sell.
There are many reasons that might make a lightly used barrel worth as much as a new one. And after all your not going to know how a barrel shoots until you shoot it. But it could be a custom barrel from a desirable maker or in a really desirable caliber. Then you may want to avoid the wait that you have from some custom makers. It's really all about what value you and the seller place on the barrel.
Sometimes I pay more because its rare or I really want it.  ;)

Of course if your just buying to resell you can't do that. Or if your just a cheep skate you won't do that. Only you know what you are?  ;D with 9 posts we really don't know you.

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Re: Strategies for buying and selling used components?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2012, 05:26:56 AM »
Only you know what you are?  ;D with 9 posts we really don't know you.
But, if you did know me, you'd like me.  I promise.