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Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« on: December 01, 2012, 12:46:10 PM »
It was 48 below this morning here in North Pole.  When the wife told the dog it was time to go outside, he hid under the bed.  I got up and called him out.  I went and put his Sweater on, then his Parka.  Put four booties on his feet, and snapped the leash to his coller.  While I was putting on my gear he looked at me like, (Do we really have to do this).  I headed down the drive, but he stopped and did his business half way to the street.  At that point he wanted to come back to the house.  I picked him up and carried him to the street to get the morning paper.  I checked the temp before coming back in, 48 below.  When I started undressing him he jumped out of my hands when I got down to his sweater, he wanted to keep that on.

I went and got more wood for the fireplace and opened the damper to let it come to life.  Once it got going and the fan came on the little dog curled up in front of the air outlet, and refused to move.

Got a call to go recover a Moose this morning.  Moose had been hit in the head by a pick-up.  Trooper, and lots of people sitting around in their cars.  I slipped the rope loops over the feet and attached the winch cable.  Started winching and discovered the head was frozen to the pavement.  Winch could not move the Big Cow.  Got into the truck, locked it into 4-Wheel drive and hit the gas.  Left a lot of skin frozen to the pavement, but moved the animal.  That skin will be there till spring.  Winched it on up onto the bed of the truck.  Drove to the Charity that was to get the Animal.  They were elated, only the head had suffered any damage, unlike most times when the body is hit by the vehicle.  They asked me to just dump it in their drive, near the garage door.  I loosened the straps and backed up fast.  Hit the brakes and the Moose was on the ground.  Saw a Calf hit on the way back.  It was in the median of the highway.  Called the Troopers, they said someone was already on the way.  I was backing up to the animal so I would be ready when the Trooper arrived, when he pulled up.  10 minutes and it was aboard.  Took it to the Soup Kitchen in town.  When I pulled up they had about 10 men come out and they slid it off the truck and carried it inside the big work area. 

I'm a volunteer with the Alaska Moose Federation.  I was coerced into volunteering.  (Why did I do this, Why did I do this) It's not hard, just time consuming.  We go out and pick up the Moose, then take it to the Charity that is to get the meat.  That way no one is sitting on the side of the road butchering it, while a State Trooper stands by with lights flashing.  When the people doing the butchering are done they leave a gutpile on the side of the road, which again causes problems by drawing predators.  Have seen Ravens on a gutpile beside the road, when a car comes along.  The Ravens fly up, the driver swerves and goes into the snowbank, then rolls the car. 

It's supposed to be 50 to 55 below by Monday.
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2012, 01:09:27 PM »
 My little dog starts shivering somewhere around 50 degrees. At 50 below he and I would just up and die. Not sure how ya'll do it but I sure enjoyed the story.  J
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2012, 02:17:37 PM »
Things sure do get interesting on the south side of -30,  I've been trucking bck nd forth from anchorage to fbx and even with the bra and center cover the truck won't warm up when it's -40.  It also changes a simple breakdown into a possibly life threatening situation. 

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2012, 02:58:05 PM »
I had a friend stationed up in Alaska.  She was amazed that there were women sunbathing in 32 degree weather.  She didn't understand what a block heater was.  I saw her about a year latter and asked what the temp. was when she left.  She calmly said negative 76 with the wind chill......like it was nothing.

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2012, 03:43:50 PM »
You can send SOME of that down here in Aurora,CO.  We had mid 60's today, 35 or so tonight, near 70 tomorrow.  We had the driest ever November, really need some moisture, or at least some wind to change out the smog.  The Fern Lake fire that has been burning in Rocky Mountain Park flared up and caused a bunch of evacuations.  I think that they were letting it go thinking we should have had snow by now.  Wife has no voice, partly because of the crummy air, so we have to do a lot of huhhing.  Coldest I have ever seen here is -32, and twice -29.  We don't have block heaters so the old Chevy started really slow the next day. 
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2012, 06:13:34 PM »
thank you no.
yall keep the cold if you want it


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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2012, 10:25:55 PM »
I read on the internet that air quality was really bad in North Pole because of the lower temps and everyone using their woodstoves and that the only place with worse conditions was some city in China. I think I'll stay in Northern Cali where it's been raining for the last week. I can handle a little water. I don't like the white stuff.
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 12:36:32 AM »
Sourdough,

Your not spending this winter in Florida like you usually do? My first year back in Florida for the winter and I'm loving it. 56 deg this morning. Come on down.  ;D
And bring the dog, sounds like he will like it here.
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 01:09:00 AM »
The coldest I have ever experienced was 25 below zero when I lived on the mountain by Seven Springs Ski Resort. That was about 19 years ago and my first winter back from living in Florida for many years. That was the coldest recored in the area since they have kept records. That was also the winter I met my wife. I thought I was going to freeze to death. I lived in a little 10x50 trailer with 2x2 walls and almost no insulation. The furnace did not work in that trailer and all I had to heat it was a kerosene heater and an electric heater. I had them both wide open and you could still see your breath in the trailer. I really thought I might freeze to death and was wondering what the hell was my thinking moving from the Fl Keys to here. If you did not go out and start your car every couple hours you could forget about it starting when you needed it. I know there is no way I could take the cold that you guys get up there at the north pole. Dale
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 05:34:15 AM »
Wait a minute; someone must be fibbing, because I just heard on the tube that the ice is melting in the northern hemisphere so fast that the seas are rising a whole 3 millimeters every year.  Let's see, that's about as thick as a fingernail.  Oh no, we're doomed.  How would you go about measuring a rise in sea level like that?  Well, never mind, it's time to panic.  Hey, if my memory serves, didn't the president claim that he would stop all of this?  That son of ... he snookered us again.
Sourdough, you've got to prepare now for the lake that will form in the Tanana Valley when all that ice and snow melts this coming spring.  That might become the largest lake in the world and you'll have it right at your doorstep.  That of course assumes that our great leader doesn't stop the blazing heat that is sure to come.
 
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 05:47:58 AM »
I used to work in a -30  ice cream warehouse freezer 10-14 hours a day. Its a shock to the system ( teeth and lungs ) when going from 90 degrees outside to that!


Though once in there for 5 minutes it really wasnt bad at all other than the frost buildup on my face

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 09:17:57 AM »
I'm leaving the 17th of December.  Going to Virginia with the wife and son for Christmas.  Day after Christmas we are flying to Tennessee to visit my folks.  My Dad is living in a nursing home now, he has Altzheimers.  He does not know anyone now.  31 December the wife and son fly back to Alaska, I drive to Florida.  I'll be staying in Florida till some time in March, maybe April, depends on how I feel.

We now official North Pole and Fairbanks have the worst air quality in the nation.  With this cold we have an air inversion that is trapping everything near the ground.  Most people use fuel oil for heat, producing pollution.  Others who live off the main roads only burn wood or coal.  Many of us living in the core area burn wood or coal to supplement our heating system.   We have been trying to get a natural gas pipeline in to here for over 50 years.  Gas will have to be piped for either the North Slope or Anchorage, 400 miles either way.  So the state will have to put it in, too costly for the city of Fairbanks and North Pole.  At every turn Anchorage legislatures shoot us down.  They have the highest population and the votes.  Anchorage also has Natural Gas.  When we say we are desperate and need that pipeline, the comment made by Hollis Frendh an Anchorage legislator is, "Well you are the ones that chose to live in Fairbanks, move to Anchorage and you won't have a problem".

Back in my younger days I worked outside at 45, 50, and 55 below a lot.  Even worked outside at 70 below, but today in my old age, it hurts too much.  I avoid going outside if I can. 
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2012, 09:44:35 AM »
Why does anyone live north of the mason-dixon line??
I was back in Illinois a while back and it got down to +16 and I thought I was gonna die.
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2012, 10:24:29 AM »
Poor moose, it was surely the cold that drove it to suicide.


I looked at going to alaska once but found e summer weather to have too high a risk of a spoiled or dangerous trip due to bad weather.

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2012, 11:03:05 AM »
48 degrees below zero.  :o I really don't understand how anyone can take that or would even want too. Gotta be totally nuts.  ;D ;D

The coldest I've ever been in was 10 below and I thought I was going to freeze solid. We were lucky and the wind switched to the southwest that morning and it was 50 degrees by late afternoon.  The reason I stay here even though I'm retired is because if you don't like the weather just stick around a day or two and it will change.

Went coyote hunting this morning and it was 60 degrees at 9 AM. We are supposed to have a cool down Tuesday and it will only reach the mid 60s. That will be tough to take.  ;)

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2012, 01:38:29 PM »
well i don't feel too bad now, its only -30C here in whitehorse. stay warm pal.

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2012, 08:27:28 PM »
I've experienced -20F degrees when I went through basic at Great Lakes. My big mouth got me snow shovel duty often. BRRRRRRRRR. What an experience for this So. Cal native  :o .  Just gotta keep moving or die.

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2012, 09:10:28 PM »
On National News tonight they were talking about how cold it is in Fairbanks, they screwed up.  They dais our low temp was -12.  I got news for that weatherman, it's -40 right now in my yard using two thermometers. The readout on my Jeep reads -40, and the one on the pickup reads -41.  I'd love to see -12, I get dressed and go out predator calling. 
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2012, 02:38:09 AM »
being from VT , I thought I had expirienced cold , but I gotta say coldest temps I ever experienced was when I was stationed in Korea. Bitter Bitter cold and the winds are the worst , they just cuts right through you , right down to the bone. I lived in a hooch out in the ville. They heat their concrete houses using charcoal and pipes running through the concrete floor , sit down on floor burn your butt, stand up freeze your !@#

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2012, 03:44:36 AM »
It got down to minus 30 with the wind chill a few years ago. I was fairly well ( just the water to the stock froze and I had filled up all the troughs)insulated but you couldn't find a pvc fitting for 400 miles.  Had a friend who had flow about 600 miles to Austin ( for business) and picked up some contractor bags of fitting.  He was a popular guy.

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2012, 05:04:40 AM »
I don't know what they're complaining about, it's being pushing 80 above around here..... ::)
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2012, 05:14:27 AM »
Old Fart, you da man! "If you can't stand the cold, get out of the freezer", to coin a phrase. ;)

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2012, 10:48:43 AM »
On National News tonight they were talking about how cold it is in Fairbanks, they screwed up.  They dais our low temp was -12.  I got news for that weatherman, it's -40 right now in my yard using two thermometers. The readout on my Jeep reads -40, and the one on the pickup reads -41.  I'd love to see -12, I get dressed and go out predator calling.


My cheapo digital thermometer is good down to -40.  After that it just reads "LL".  It's been "LL" for a few days now.  :o

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2012, 02:39:40 PM »
i like the cold, its kind of a challenge.but here in sw mo we have been haveing a warm winter.60+ today.i dont like it.i like ice, snow and temps in the teens.keeps me busy at work and at home.makes me feel alive and prepared.we used to have good cold winters here but not lately.

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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2012, 06:26:45 PM »
Haven't seen really cold winters here either.  The last time I saw 60 to 70 below was back in the late 80s.  Really hope I don't ever see that cold again either.

Back when I was a kid we would have a white Christmas every other years of so in Nashville.  Now the temps are in the high 60s.  Doubt they will see snow this year.  Most years they don't anymore. 
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2012, 01:50:34 AM »
being from VT , I thought I had expirienced cold , but I gotta say coldest temps I ever experienced was when I was stationed in Korea. Bitter Bitter cold and the winds are the worst , they just cuts right through you , right down to the bone. I lived in a hooch out in the ville. They heat their concrete houses using charcoal and pipes running through the concrete floor , sit down on floor burn your butt, stand up freeze your !@#

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I had a similar experience......spent a year (1976) just south of the DMZ on a hawk site near Kempo eub.....I remember 30 below and a 20 mile an hour wind and then a cooling pump went out on the ICWAR.  We spent most of the day on what should have been a hours work as we could only work for about 10 minutes at a time.

We had diesel space heaters in the ready room and while they glowed orange it was still miserably cold.

If I remember correctly, the heated floors sometimes leaked and killed a few GI's every winter due to carbon monoxide......

Also remember the VD tune that played on Armed Forces Radio network.....

Maybe it seemed so cold because of the GI gear we had?
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Re: Newbies are crying, it's too cold.
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2012, 03:20:26 AM »
 I was fortunate to be stationed in Southern Bavaria as a soldier, winters were pretty mild compared to northern Germany. Once, on Reforger, we were up north and the windchill was -40, my feet sweat real bad in my Mickey Mouse boots, and I lost all feeling in them for 9 days. Thankfully, we were back in 20 deg weather soon, in Augsburg. It took almost 24 hrs to clean up/service/get equipment back to combat ready status before we got to clean up. I stood in a hot shower for almost an hour it seemed before the feeling came back in my feet...oww! ha I was glad to get back home to the Houston area after discharge. I was more afraid of being sent to Korea than Viet Nam! There were a few Korea vets in our small town, and all had toes missing, and bad, bad war stories, chinamen and cold! Not for me! ha
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