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223 and Sassy's First Deer
« on: December 25, 2012, 04:23:43 PM »
Grandkids (Sassy & Rooster) went deer hunting this afternoon, Me and Josh just went along for the ride and cleaning. Sassy knocked this doe down at 150 yards with a single 45gr Rem UMC hollow point bullet.I told her to put it on the neck and she did, bang flop, take pictures and field dress.Rooster will get his chance tomorrow.As you can see by the Wound channel picture it was very devastating.Bullet went in the neck then went down the side till it exited out in front of rear leg.Josh said it looked like some of the wounds he saw in Iraq. I never expected to see a 45 gr hollow point penetrate that far.
 But I do have a very Happy Grandaughter and needless to say so is her Dad and I
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2012, 10:02:43 PM »
Well that was a Merry Christmas.  Geeze George, whoda thunk a 45 gr. factory HP could do something like that.  Was that Sassy's first deer?  Give her a hug from us.

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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2012, 01:51:30 AM »
Congrats to Sassy and her proud family! I can only imagine the feeling of joy that has brought her proud father and grandfather. I can't wait until my daughter is old enough to hunt with me.

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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2012, 02:06:02 AM »
Dinny, You'll turn around twice and you'll be waiting for your grandkids to hunt with you ;)   Believe me....got the hat and shirt.

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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2012, 02:23:46 AM »
Dang I hate to agree but Pete is right about the kids growing up  fast ;D Got to go we got more hunting to do!
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2012, 02:25:23 AM »
George,
 
Congrats to Sassy!  Question, who had the biggest smile, the young hunter, her dad or her granddad?
 
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 02:34:15 AM »
I don't know... making little kids work at food gathering on a holiday?  Might get cited for child labor. 
 
Nice Christmas gift for all.  Thanks for the happy pictures.  Hope it tastes good!
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2012, 05:30:05 AM »
Well done Sassy, Dad and Grandpa!!! ;)

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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2012, 05:55:44 AM »
Great story! That 223 did some damage.
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2012, 06:11:55 AM »
Congrats to Sassy! There are no better moments in the outdoors than those "first success" stories with our kids and grand kids... my youngest got a .243 Super Light for Christmas and starts hunting with us next fall... she says she is excited to go... but, I can't wait! Enjoy the rest of the holidays... good luck to your grandson. 
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2012, 11:27:10 AM »
Excellent story and pics.  Keep 'em hunting!
 
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 01:39:46 PM »
A Christmas you will never forget, way to go Sassy. :)
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2012, 02:25:52 PM »
congrats to the young lady
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2012, 03:15:11 PM »
Congrats to Sassy and grandpap! Very impressed with that 223!
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer Update
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2012, 10:46:18 AM »
The Rooster had to keep up with Sassy.He used the same 223 Handi Super Light to knock down a doe yesterday. It was standing broadside about just a further out than Sassy's . Josh estimated it to be 180 meters. ( He thinks in meters because the Army makes him ;D )
 He now thinks deer hunting is easy and he is an expert marksman because he has got 4 deer in 2 years.
 Again the 45gr hollow point elcheapo Remington bullets performed beyond belief. Bullet went thru the shoulder rib cage destroyed the heart exited the other side ribs and the offside shoulder.
 What was really remarkable the doe when to the ground, then tried to stand up but fell over in place.I never will understand how an animal can sustain that much damage and still move
Picture shows the exit wound to the off side rib cage

Josh shot a nice doe as well with my old Ruger Ultralite 250Savage.Usual results Drt about 80 yards (giving him the benefit of the doubt ;D )
Now we got a bunch of jerky to make .
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2012, 11:08:43 AM »
Congratulations,looks to be a good year for the family. That .223 looks to do a great job. Rick
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2012, 11:10:57 AM »
Congrats to all the young hunters and their mentors.
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2012, 01:35:21 PM »
It is amazing that such a tiny pill would wreck so much havoc.  Here I was wondering if an 85 gr. BTHP Gameking was too light out of the .243.  That sucker shoots like a laser.  I think I'm missing a bet by not trying it.  Give Rooster and Sassy a congrats and a hug from a couple of Damned Yankees.

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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2012, 06:06:43 PM »
Congratulations for introducing the sport of hunting to a new generation! Nice shooting! Sidenote,
I had a friend from Florida that said he was 21 years old before he learned that Damn Yankee was two words!
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2012, 07:07:37 AM »
Nice shot! A little Annie Oakley  :D
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2012, 07:33:06 AM »
Quote from: Flynmoose on December 28, 2012, 06:06:43 PM
I had a friend from Florida that said he was 21 years old before he learned that Damn Yankee was two words!
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2013, 02:25:18 AM »
Awesome on you for taking her hunting! 


.223 is a under estimated round for sure.  Frankly it's all about velocity unless you don't mind tracking them.  My father has been hunting with a .270 for decades.  Got a deal on a .243 popped a couple with that and was like man it puts them on the ground just like the .270 then he got into a .45-70 for primitive hunting.  Hit a doe great shot at 220 yards.  She ran off.


We found her 30 yards off into the woods.  Was a clean kill shot through the heart.  He was scratching his head trying to figure out how she even took a single step after getting hit with that cannon.  Then I had to explain it too him, and break all his myths about bullets, and stopping power. lol


Basically velocity kills.  Everything else just makes them bleed to death.  .444 marlin, and .45-70 just make them bleed to death real darn fast. lol.


.223 is a smoking hot laser of a round especially when not fired out of a 16" barrel M-4.  I recommend it to people looking for a kids caliber all the time.
They're like it's too light, etc.  Then I have to explain to them a average doe around here weighs 90 - 120lbs.  You average grown man weighs 180lbs.  Bullet is a man killer out to 400 meters with a 20" barrel.  A deer inside of 200 yards is literally dead meat.
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2013, 03:33:17 AM »
I believe the NATO version of the .223 was adopted not because it killed well at 400 yards, but because it wounded.  A wounded man takes three out of combat.  A dead man takes but one.  If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2013, 04:47:21 AM »
Quote from: petemi on January 01, 2013, 03:33:17 AM
I believe the NATO version of the .223 was adopted not because it killed well at 400 yards, but because it wounded.  A wounded man takes three out of combat.  A dead man takes but one.  If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

Pete


That and the ammo is relatively light compared to 7.62  A big consideration when you're carrying a bunch.
 
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Re: 223 and Sassy's First Deer
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2013, 04:58:43 AM »
Thanks Ben, I knew that and forgot to include it. ::)

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