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Read full story at link. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
 
Several leading doctor groups support mandatory flu shots for workers. And the American Medical Association in November endorsed mandatory shots for those with direct patient contact in nursing homes; elderly patients are particularly vulnerable to flu-related complications. The American Nurses Association supports mandates if they're adopted at the state level and affect all hospitals, but also says exceptions should be allowed for medical or religious reasons.
Mandates for vaccinating health care workers against other diseases, including measles, mumps and hepatitis, are widely accepted. But some workers have less faith that flu shots work -- partly because there are several types of flu virus that often differ each season and manufacturers must reformulate vaccines to try and match the circulating strains.
 
While not 100 percent effective, this year's vaccine is a good match, the CDC's Bridges said.
Several states have laws or regulations requiring flu vaccination for health care workers but only three -- Arkansas, Maine and Rhode Island -- spell out penalties for those who refuse, according to Alexandra Stewart, a George Washington University expert in immunization policikfriedenes and co-author of a study appearing this month in the journal Vaccine.
Rhode Island's regulation, enacted in December, may be the toughest and is being challenged in court by a health workers union. The rule allows exemptions for religious or medical reasons, but requires unvaccinated workers in contact with patients to wear face masks during flu season. Employees who refuse the masks can be fined $100 and may face a complaint or reprimand for unprofessional conduct that could result in losing their professional license.
 
Some Rhode Island hospitals post signs announcing that workers wearing masks have not received flu shots. Opponents say the masks violate their health privacy.
"We really strongly support the goal of increasing vaccination rates among health care workers and among the population as a whole," but it should be voluntary, said SEIU Healthcare Employees Union spokesman Chas Walker.
Supporters of health care worker mandates note that to protect public health, courts have endorsed forced vaccination laws affecting the general population during disease outbreaks, and have upheld vaccination requirements for schoolchildren.
 
Cases involving flu vaccine mandates for health workers have had less success. A 2009 New York state regulation mandating health care worker vaccinations for swine flu and seasonal flu was challenged in court but was later rescinded because of a vaccine shortage. And labor unions have challenged individual hospital mandates enacted without collective bargaining; an appeals court upheld that argument in 2007 in a widely cited case involving Virginia Mason Hospital in Seattle.
Calhoun, the Illinois nurse, says she is unsure of her options.
 "Most of the hospitals in my area are all implementing these policies," she said. "This conflict could end the career I have dedicated myself to."


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I would recommend staying away from any hospital (as a patient) that requires mandatory flu vaccinations of its employees. Those hospitals are using the Joint Commission rules to cover up a high rate of infection they are giving their patients. It works like this: if the hospital has an unacceptable rate of nosocomial infections (ones that you catch in the hospital, like MRSA, VRE, C-Diff) they get points taken off on their rating. If they lose enough points, they lose their accreditation, and Medicare, Medicaid, and insurance funding. They get points added back for having a high percentage of patient care staff vaccinated; they get the most for 100%, so they are requiring the staff to get vaccinated to counter the numbers they accumulated in their last survey. If there were no high rate of nosocomial infection, they would not need the staff to be vaccinated. ALL patients are offered vaccinations, anyway. The elderly, immunocompromised, and children get the shots for no charge. It's a smoke screen...
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I've actually had influenza, the real thing, not a cold or twenty four hour ailment. This was the flu that kills people. I can assure you that it was a truly bad experience that affected me harshly for about two weeks of miserable illness. I get flu shots since. I never want that again.

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Unless a person is allergic to eggs, they're crazy to not get a shot.  the shot is not 100% but it could cut down on the number of cases.
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At best the flu vaccine is about 60% effective. The US does not give TB vaccinations because they're only about 70% effective--- plus they're made by a foreign non-profit pharmacy company. Does anybody see a pattern here?  ???
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Good for the hospitals for making the rule. I haven't had a flu since I started taking the shots back when they first came out with them. No more high fever, vomiting, or the runs. It's not too much to expect of a care giver.
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  After my wife has suffered for over a year due to an improperly administered tetnus shot, I did a lot of reading, both of conspiracy and statistic nature. I found that issues like her SIRVA(shoulder injury relating to vaccine ad.inistration) is very common. The PA who did hers was unconcerned and had never, supposedly heard of such a thing.  ::) right.. unfortunately I believe her. As I delved into the conspiracy angle concerning vaccination, flu shots in particular,  right or wrong, i'm VERY vigilant against the folks bearing needles. Just wait till a few more years go by and obamacare mandates us all to get our flu shots.. j
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Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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My girlfriend gets a flu shot every year. She has the flu right now despite that and has gotten it many times in the past. I used to get flu shots in the past but stopped a while back when I realized that I got the flu anyway. I got the flu a lot as a child but now I seem to average a flu every few years whether I get the shot or not.
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My family dr says that getting it every year builds an immunity to the flu. Sorry some of you have had bad experiences with it. There are a lot of sick folks around here, most of them have said that they did NOT get the flu shot. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm