Author Topic: Just got back from ILL, not a good trip. Got back this evening. I was hurting pr (Read 469 times)

powderman · « **on:** January 30, 2013, 03:45:46 PM »

Got back this evening from ILL, dr advised I wait several months because of the discs in my back, I was hurting pretty bad this morning and had to take a percocet, woke up in the middle of the night hurting in my back and rt leg again. WE did stop several times and walked a bit, same coming home.
I never dreamed my own sisters would have given my brother and I such a screwing over. Some of my prizes I WON in the drawing were 2 poached egg cups, one with a hole in it, a crockpot BOWL, no crock pot. I was told a bit over a week ago that I had garden hoses and other gardening things. I got a rake with no handle, and a saw with no handle, We easily got everything in the trunk except for 2 boxes, she had told me previously I had a truck load. I asked where the hoses and other thgings were, she said, I didn't know when you were coming so I gave over 1/2 of your stuff away. There was a nasty old cooler full of JUNK, I said, what in the hell am I supposed to do with this junk?? Her husband, a great guy, said, they pick up garbage every week, thats where I'd put it. My oldest sis said that the other 2 would take what they wanted, even though she complained, If my name or my bro was drawn. She said the other sisters were selling OUR stuff on ebay and were going to have a big yard sale with OUR things. YES, I'm pissed. Been hurting and having chest pains over this crap. Angry

Did have a good visit with my old hunting buddy, I don't think he'll be here much longer. Alfred has always been like a 2nd Dad to me, walked hundreds of miles over the years hunting, fishing and camping.
Saw a report on TV while there with a sheriff interviewed. He said the ammo situation was so bad he placed a 2 year order. He said that people were buying and hoarding because they feared that hussein was going to confiscate guns from private citizens, he said, sorry to sayit, but thats exactly what hussein plans to do. Chkd several stores, no ammo, did see some 45LC in onre store. POWDERMAN.

JonnyReb · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2013, 04:26:22 PM »

Sounds like an all around depressing trip, depressed me reading it lol

, glad your back safe though,

Funny thing about the ammo is how none is coming. The initial sell off yes, but no restocking? Did find one local dealer here that did restock, at least temporarily, with foreign ammo. Can't ALL the US ammo be going to gov agencies can it? Scary to hear your Sheriff echoing all the rest. Seems they would know.

Hope it gets better now that your back home. Look forward to your many posts. J

jcn59 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2013, 04:29:18 PM »

I've had a bulged (?) L-4~L-5 disc for a number of years & I finally got it chiropracted to where Excedrin worked pretty good on it, then I got an ulcer from the Excedrin that bled me out in the woods while hunting grouse. Ended up crawling back to my truck dragging a Browning double shotgun, then a few days in the hospital & couple units of blood. If it ain't one thing it's another.

It sounds like your family get together was disappointing. God works in strange ways, sometimes. My wife tells me to redistribute my stuff while I'm still living. I'm finally old enough to start. She's probably right. Again. I had a special rifle I was going to give to my oldest son when I died. He went first, about four months ago. Don't think I don't have mixed feelings about that.

Ranger99 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2013, 04:53:34 PM »

hope you get better soon.

that's a shame folks get that way
over "things"
i can sympathize with you on that.
i was really young when my dad passed
and a lot of his things got looted for lack
of a better way to put it. some of my relations
have passed and nobody ever called. i found
out one aunt had passed through an obituary
notice in a small town paper i take.
i guess folks are afraid that someone else
will get the "good stuff" . i'm fortunate to
have small trinkets or this or that small
thing from loved ones, but the sentimental
value and memory is worth more to me
than the actual value of the items.

durn shame what the world has become
just in my short lifetime.

powderman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2013, 06:02:03 PM »

Family reunion in June this year will be interesting. About the ammo. I visited a gunshop Mon here in KY. No 22s of any kind. He said he filled the shelves last week and a guy from ARK came in and asked what the limit was, there isn't any limit. The guy bought all the 22s on the shelf, almost $900 worth. Most other ammo was there, but no 223, or 7.62x 39s. Walmart had a couole bxs of 380, no other pistol ammo, another had a few 45 LC, no other pistol ammo. WM mgt said once the warehouses were empty they would NOT order any more ammo.
Sorry about the rant earlier. Losing loved ones is never easy, but being treated like this hurts big time. All 3 of my sisters are executors. I was named the executor by my Father many years ago. Since I lived a long way away I asked Mom to put one or more of my sisters in there . She put all 3. I felt good about that, never dreaming what would happen.
The youngest had credit cards that Mom co signed for and took out death ins. Near as we can tell, the cards we KNOW about, she had maxed them to at LEAST $30,000, ins pd for, and she basicly got all that pd in full. One credit card she maxed at $2,000 was taken out only 11 mo before Mom died. She did this knowing Mom was dying. Thats really low. Sorry guys, I did it again. POWDERMAN.

Graybeard · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2013, 06:30:33 PM »

Cool down Charlie before you blow a gasket. You aren't the only one to have been shafted by family.

When mom died we got NOTHING of hers. I happened to go by dad's house with his new wife one day and found them having a yard sale of mom's items. I got whatever I wanted that I was willing to pay their price for. I think my older sister also dropped by during the sale and had to buy things.

When he died he included us all in his will. He listed the amounts he figured we owned him for our raising. Yup nada, he left it all to his second wife and folks he had met since marrying her.

Don't feel like the lone ranger on being shafted by siblings or other family. Faye could tell ya about siblings and her mom is still alive. Three of the five are taking things right and left some of which belong to Faye to begin with.

Ranger99 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2013, 06:38:15 PM »

it's really a sad deal to read of
things like that happening, but i
guess it just shows it's all over
and not just one region or family.
small consolation, i know.
it's sad too because it shows that some
folks were valued for their posessions
by the folks that are supposed to
be friends and family.

Larry L · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2013, 07:05:25 PM »

I can certainly identify with your grief with the sisters. I have only one sister. I was a teen when my dad died. He left mom everything but the hunting and fishing gear when to my sister. She assumed that meant the boat as that's what dad did with it, the place at the lake cause that's where he stayed when he fished. Dads car as that's what he pulled the boat with. The ranch as that's where he went hunting, obviously all of the guns including the ones I had bought- I was too young to own one. By the time my sister had cleaned "her" portion out, my mom was buying furniture to put in a one bed room apartment, and we lived in a HUGE house on acreage. All I can say is that it's pure truth, what goes around, comes around. She divorced her husband and married an alcoholic who drank everything she owned and run up credit card debit to over 150 grand. Today, she's alone and if it costs her a dime for the commode she'll have to vomit. Even her life long friends are no where to be found. Unfortunately, it weighed heavily on mom. She died 2 years later. I was "adopted" by friends of my dad. Life changed for me after that, and it turned out to be far better than any story book ending. So don't take the "things and stuff" in life seriously. It's only things. I can assure all of the "things" you didn't get would not be in your casket when you die. You can't take it with you anyway. There are many lessons to be learned from an experience like yours. Use these lessons in a positive way.

williamlayton · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:40:33 PM »

I vowed not to ever get in a fight over things.
That vow has paid dividends.
blessings

Conan The Librarian · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:43:46 AM »

I can understand your anger and frustration, but you should just let it go. You just learned the hard way what I learned a few years ago. Estate greed brings out the worst in people you thought you knew.

As for hussein, you can't do anything about it, so enjoy what you can.

Brett · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2013, 02:09:18 AM »

Well it's good to know I'm in good company. I won't bother going into the details.

gypsyman · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2013, 02:15:49 AM »

I'd better count my blessing's. When my mom died, my brother and I split up everything pretty evenly. Since I kept the house, I took out a loan to pay for my half. We get along pretty well. gypsyman

powderman · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:33:02 AM »

From the posts here I see that this is pretty common. My bro was with Mom when she signed the will and she said that EVERYTHING was to be divided equally among the 5 of us, thats what my copy says too. Now the sisters found a shyster lawyer who says that as executors only THEY are legally entitled to anything. The older sister gets out voted by the other 2 on about everything. POWDERMAN.

magooch · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:16:09 AM »

Fortunately, when my mother passed, she had a will and it was fairly ironclad, but still, my sister as the executor thought she could dictate as she saw fit. She saw fit that I would get nothing but the cash amounts that were specified. When she was confronted with a clause in the will that said if there were any conflict, the person who was not in compliance with the will would lose all claim to anything, she changed her attitude. She still managed to screw her own two kids out of a sizable chunk of cash, but that's their problem. My two kids told their cousins what they had coming, but I guess they figured their mom was entitled. She never bothered to even tell them what the will left to them. At first, she even tried to tell me that there was no will, but what she didn't know was that my mother let me see it when she was in good health. She even put me on her bank account and when she died, I was advised by the bank to clean it out before my sister got to it. I didn't really want to do it, but they said they had seen this kind of thing happen every day. I took their advice, called my sister and told her what I had done and then made sure she got a complete statement along with her half. The bank also advised that I should clean out the account even if there weren't a problem with my sister. They said that a judge might place a hold on all accounts and it would take a lawyer to get it released.

After things were settled, my sister and I didn't speak for a number of years, but time heals all wounds and we are very good these days. I guess dollar signs tend to drive a lot of people nuts. Thankfully, my mom was a lot wiser than my sis thought. My mother had made provision with her investment firm that in the event of her death, the assets would be distributed evenly between my sister and I. That just about sent my sister over the edge.

My advice to everyone is if there is a lot of assets, don't assume that you and your siblings will settle it all fair and square and be prepared to be shocked at the greed that will ensue.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:26:35 AM »

Greed is a strong emotion. When my wife's B-I-L's mother died he noticed at the post-funeral lunch that several relatives were missing. He got a hunch and went over to his mother's house where he found some of the relatives loading PU trucks of stuff. Sad.
GuzziJohn

Old Fart · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:27:10 AM »

I won't go into the screwing my family got when my dad passed. But will share that it will be less of a pain as times goes on.

magooch · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:38:32 AM »

This type of problem only gets worse when you are confronted with what will become or your own assets. I have one daughter and one son. The daughter is fairly sensible and has proven that she can handle money, but my son is another matter. At times I have vowed that I wouldn't leave him a dime and that I would leave it all to my daughter and leave it up to her to dispense as she sees fit. Realistically, I doubt that would work, but it sure would be interesting to sit up there on a cloud and watch the fur fly.

RevJim · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2013, 05:06:13 AM »

I'm sorry that happened to you Pard. I see that too often too. Stress makes pain more acute, it isn't worth it; love them and forget about it, while easy for me to say, it's still the best advice for us all.

Conan The Librarian · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2013, 07:08:40 AM »

It is common. Here's one thing I learned: Elder Law, as it is commonly called, is not about advocating for the elderly. It's about advocating for the people that want to loot the estate. Remember that as you get older. Lawyers have no incentive to see this change because they're being paid by the people who are doing the looting.

Worst case I ever heard of was from my good friend whose sister in law effectively murdered her father by adjusting his medications so he would be incompetent to handle his financial affairs, and then he died from it. She took his money. She was found guilty of relatively petty crimes and did not lose her law license as a result. In other words, you can get away with murder. It happens all the time.

Another thing I learned was that you cannot trust your own children. Some are good others are definitely not. I have personally seen this. And it is hard to believe how someone can do these evil things.

johnpaulh · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2013, 07:39:27 AM »

So sorry to hear this Powderman.....family can be....well...a b$%^&

I truly count myself a fortunate son, my parents have included my sister and I in their estate planning and all updates to the family trust, which we all have a copy of, so there are (presumably) going to be no surprises when the good people who raised us head for the happy hunting grounds. I have to say it brings a peace of mind, especially when I think of the grief of losing a parent will bring.